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Kok-ui hiaN-che, Koan-he Tai-gu seng-keng, goa u kui-tiam koan-chhat kap siuN-hoat, theh-chhut-lai hou tai-ke chham-kho. 1. Pa-khek-le pan e Tai-gu seng-keng put-koan si iong Peh-oe-ji ah-si Han-ji, peng-peng chin phaiN thak, chu-iau e bun-te m-si kan-na chit-koa gu-su hian-tai-lang bo the su-iong, khah chham e si I e gu-haot kam hian-tai kong tai-gu e lang e gu-kam u be-chio e chhut-jip. 2. Goa thiaN chin che Bok-su, tiuN-lo iong Han-ji-pan e seng-keng thak, thak kah i-su long chau-chengâkhi, cheng-beng in beh iong oan-choan han-ji lai liau-kai u khun-lan. Kau-hoe su-hoe-chia seng-keng thak m-tioh khi si chin phou-phian e hian-siong, sou-i chin che khak hu-chek-jin e su-hoe-chia, beh su-hoe chin-cheng e ka hit-kang beh thak e keng-chat seng thak chit-pian. Chhin-chhiuN goan kau-hoe, goan bok-su ti pai-6 e ka beh thak e keng-chat seng hou su-hoe-chia chai-iaN. 3. Bok-cheng Tai-gu kau-hoe kau-se bo chin-pou kap Tai-gu kau-hoe bo sek-tong e seng-keng kap Tai-bun e leng-siu kau-chai u chin toa e koan-he. Siau-jian-poe su-iong hoa-gu seng-keng, hoa-bun e leng-siu kau-chai, lan-bian beh piau-tat e si iong hoa-gu khak sip-koan, tui Tai-gu e kang-to e chhin-chhiat-kam lu lai lu bo, choe-au chiu chau khi hoa-gu kau-hoe, kam-khak thiaN hoa-gu kong-to khak sip-koan. 4. Kau-hoe e bok-su phou-phian kam-kak âkau-hoe i-keng bo leng-lek leng-to sia-hoeâ, gu-giqan bun-te iu-ki si an-ne, sou-i in tui gu-gian si chhai-chhu sun-chiong tiau-liu e thai-tou. Chiau goa sou-chai, Tai-hok kau-hoe chin che long u se hoa-gu-pou. Siat hoa-gu pou e kiat-ko si Tai-gu-pou oan-choan bo siau-lian-lang, in-ui long chau khi Hoa-gu le-pai. An-ne cho tui kau-hoe e cheng-tiuN bo it-teng si chiaN-binâe, u koa kau-hoe in-ui an-ne hun-liat. Kau-hoe pun-lia to m-si chin che lang, hun-cho Tai-gu/hoan-su/eng-gu kui na pou, tiong-kang koh bo the kau-thong, pian-cho 1 kpk 3 che3. 5. Tai-gu seng-keng hian-tai ek-pun pi Pa-khek-le e pan-pun ke chin ho-thak, Tai-gu kau-hoe na si u-sim beh hiong kong tai-gu e lang thoan-kau, chit-pun seng-keng ai koaN-kin chhut-pan, kai-ho e eng-tai tui-chiau e pan-pun, in-ui hian-tai-lang thak seng-keng e sip-koan tiaN-tiaN tang-si chham-kho kui-na e pan-pun lai cheng-ka tui keng-bun e jim-sek. E-sai kho-lu seng chhut sin-iok. Beh tan kau ku-ek ia hoan-ek/sim-cha ho-se, khiong-kiaN kau hit-si Tai-gu e sin-tou m-chai koh beh liu-sit goa-che khi ah. Tai-eng tui-chiau e seng-keng ma e-tang hong-pian hai-goa tai-oan lang e te ji tai kap pe-bu cho-hoe thak seng-keng. 6. Hian-tai Tai-gu seng-keng ek-pun bok-cheng si su-iong choan-lo lai teng-ko. M-koh goa kam-kak eng-kai ai jin-chin kho-lu iong Han-lo chhut-pan. In-ui kau bok-cheng ui-chi, su-iong han-lo si siong phou-phian e cho-hoat. Han-ji pan e seng-keng Peh-oe-ji si iong lai cho chu-im nia-nia, oat-thok khi-lai chin chiahâlat. Cho-lo/choan-han, han-lo to chit chiong oat-thok su-tou khak-kin, e-tang iong sit-giam e hong-sek lai chhi-giam, to chit chiong khak kin chiu chhai-chhu to chit-tho, m-thang iong i-sek heng-thai lai koat-teng bun-ji hong-sek. Goa siong-sin sit-giam e kiat-ko si ho-lo siong-kin, in-ui bok-cheng e khan-but Tai-gu bun-ji su-iong e chhu-se to e-tang cheng-beng. Liongkng On 8/11/02 2:14 PM, "Henry H. Tan-Tenn" wrote: > > E-kha e bun-chiuN khan ti Kau-hoe Kong-po (<http://www.pctpress.com.tw/news/å o͘> > å ±å»£å ´.htm). > > 1-koa siuN-hoat: > > 1. POJ ti kau-hoe lai-pou sit-thoan kiam-chhai kap su-iong-chia e bun-ji i-sek > heng-thai u koan-he: HJ chiah si "ji", POJ si "lo-ma-ji"; e-hiau LMJ chin ho, > bat HJ koh khah ho. > > 2. POJ e kong-leng (eng-kai) chu-iau ui HJ chu-im. (Bun-chiuN chhui-kiane > "Tai-gi HJ kap LMJ hun-hap su-iong" m-si chi Han-Lo thau-lam e bun-ji, siu > LMJ chu-im e bun-pun.) > > 3. HJ sia-hoe u khu-piat "khoaN" kap "thak" 2-chiong khip-siu Han-bun-ji > loe-iong e koe-theng. Tui oat-thak e jin-ti kho-hak u gian-kiu e lang m-chai > u siaN-mih khoaN-hoat? > > 4. Eng-bun e "night"/"knight", "see"/"sea", "meet"/"meat" teng-teng pun-te > hoat-im bo kang, sou-i pheng-im oan-na bo kang -- m-si Eng-kok-lang thiau-kang > beh hou pheng-im bo kang. Khah oaN che-teng bun-ji e gi-gian (chhin-chhiuN > Finnish [Hun-lan-oe], 19 se-ki) phou-phian i-chhi im-tui-ji e koan-he. > > 5a. Hun-piat è±ãå¬°ãæ«»ãé·¹ u siaN-mih-khoan e ho-chhu? (Chit 4-ji goa kan-na > e-ki-tit an-choaN sia èò͘.) > > 5b. Ka "in", "goan", "lin" sia cho 3-e HJ tian-to khoaN/thak be-chhut hit-e > "n" u to-sou e i-su. > > 6. Tai-lo-hoe beh ju-ho hou sia-hoe tui LMJ u khah chhim e jin-bat? 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Goa thiaN chin che Bok-su, tiuN-lo iong Han-ji-pan e seng-keng thak, thak kah i-su long chau-cheng—khi, cheng-beng in beh iong oan-choan han-ji lai liau-kai u khun-lan. Kau-hoe su-hoe-chia seng-keng thak m-tioh khi si chin phou-phian e hian-siong, sou-i chin che khak hu-chek-jin e su-hoe-chia, beh su-hoe chin-cheng e ka hit-kang beh thak e keng-chat seng thak chit-pian. Chhin-chhiuN goan kau-hoe, goan bok-su ti pai-6 e ka beh thak e keng-chat seng hou su-hoe-chia chai-iaN.<BR> <BR> 3. Bok-cheng Tai-gu kau-hoe kau-se bo chin-pou kap Tai-gu kau-hoe bo sek-tong e seng-keng kap Tai-bun e leng-siu kau-chai u chin toa e koan-he. Siau-jian-poe su-iong hoa-gu seng-keng, hoa-bun e leng-siu kau-chai, lan-bian behpiau-tat e si iong hoa-gu khak sip-koan, tui Tai-gu e kang-to e chhin-chhiat-kam lu lai lu bo, choe-au chiu chau khi hoa-gu kau-hoe, kam-khak thiaN hoa-gu kong-to khak sip-koan.<BR> <BR> 4. Kau-hoe e bok-su phou-phian kam-kak “kau-hoe i-keng bo leng-lek leng-to sia-hoe”, gu-giqan bun-te iu-ki si an-ne, sou-i in tui gu-gian si chhai-chhu sun-chiong tiau-liu e thai-tou. Chiau goa sou-chai, Tai-hok kau-hoe chin che long u se hoa-gu-pou. Siat hoa-gu pou e kiat-ko si Tai-gu-pou oan-choan bo siau-lian-lang, in-ui long chau khi Hoa-gu le-pai. An-ne cho tui kau-hoe e cheng-tiuN bo it-teng si chiaN-bin—e, u koa kau-hoe in-ui an-ne hun-liat. Kau-hoe pun-lia to m-si chin che lang, hun-cho Tai-gu/hoan-su/eng-gu kui na pou, tiong-kang koh bo the kau-thong, pian-cho 1 kpk 3 che3.<BR> <BR> 5. Tai-gu seng-keng hian-tai ek-pun pi Pa-khek-le e pan-pun ke chin ho-thak, Tai-gu kau-hoe na si u-sim beh hiong kong tai-gu e lang thoan-kau, chit-pun seng-keng ai koaN-kin chhut-pan, kai-ho e eng-tai tui-chiau e pan-pun, in-ui hian-tai-lang thak seng-keng e sip-koan tiaN-tiaN tang-si chham-kho kui-na e pan-pun lai cheng-ka tui keng-bun e jim-sek. <BR> E-sai kho-lu seng chhut sin-iok. Beh tan kau ku-ek ia hoan-ek/sim-cha ho-se, khiong-kiaN kau hit-si Tai-gu e sin-tou m-chai koh beh liu-sit goa-che khi ah.<BR> Tai-eng tui-chiau e seng-keng ma e-tang hong-pian hai-goa tai-oan lang e teji tai kap pe-bu cho-hoe thak seng-keng.<BR> <BR> 6. Hian-tai Tai-gu seng-keng ek-pun bok-cheng si su-iong choan-lo lai teng-ko. M-koh goa kam-kak eng-kai ai jin-chin kho-lu iong Han-lo chhut-pan. In-ui kau bok-cheng ui-chi, su-iong han-lo si siong phou-phian e cho-hoat. Han-ji pan e seng-keng Peh-oe-ji si iong lai cho chu-im nia-nia, oat-thok khi-lai chin chiah—lat. Cho-lo/choan-han, han-lo to chit chiong oat-thok su-tou khak-kin, e-tang iong sit-giam e hong-sek lai chhi-giam, to chit chiong khak kin chiu chhai-chhu to chit-tho, m-thang iong i-sek heng-thai lai koat-teng bun-ji hong-sek. Goa siong-sin sit-giam e kiat-ko si ho-lo siong-kin, in-ui bok-cheng e khan-but Tai-gu bun-ji su-iong e chhu-se to e-tang cheng-beng.<BR> <BR> Liongkng<BR> <BR> <BR> <BR> On 8/11/02 2:14 PM, "Henry H. Tan-Tenn" wrote:<BR> <BR> </FONT><BLOCKQUOTE><FONT FACE="Verdana"> <BR> E-kha e bun-chiuN khan ti Kau-hoe Kong-po (<http://www.pctpress.com.tw/news/></FONT><FONT FACE="Osaka">å ¬å ±å»£å ´.htm).<BR> </FONT><FONT FACE="Verdana"> <BR> 1-koa siuN-hoat:<BR> <BR> 1. POJ ti kau-hoe lai-pou sit-thoan kiam-chhai kap su-iong-chia e bun-ji i-sek heng-thai u koan-he: HJ chiah si "ji", POJ si "lo-ma-ji"; e-hiau LMJ chin ho, bat HJ koh khah ho.<BR> <BR> 2. POJ e kong-leng (eng-kai) chu-iau ui HJ chu-im. (Bun-chiuN chhui-kian e "Tai-gi HJ kap LMJ hun-hap su-iong" m-si chi Han-Lo thau-lam e bun-ji, si u LMJ chu-im e bun-pun.)<BR> <BR> 3. HJ sia-hoe u khu-piat "khoaN" kap "thak" 2-chiong khip-siu Han-bun-ji loe-iong e koe-theng. Tui oat-thak e jin-ti kho-haku gian-kiu e lang m-chai u siaN-mih khoaN-hoat?<BR> <BR> 4. Eng-bun e "night"/"knight", "see"/"sea", "meet"/"meat" teng-teng pun-te hoat-im bo kang, sou-i pheng-im oan-na bo kang -- m-si Eng-kok-lang thiau-kang beh hou pheng-im bo kang. Khah oaN che-teng bun-ji e gi-gian (chhin-chhiuN Finnish [Hun-lan-oe], 19 se-ki) phou-phian i-chhi im-tui-ji e koan-he.<BR> <BR> </FONT><FONT FACE="Osaka">5a. Hun-piat è±ãå¬°ãæ«»ãé·¹ u siaN-mih-khoan e ho-chhu? (Chit 4-jigoa kan-na e-ki-tit an-choaN sia èò͘.)<BR> </FONT><FONT FACE="Verdana"> <BR> 5b. Ka "in", "goan", "lin" sia cho 3-e HJ tian-to khoaN/thak be-chhut hit-e "n" u to-sou e i-su.<BR> <BR> 6. Tai-lo-hoe beh ju-ho hou sia-hoe tui LMJ u khah chhim e jin-bat? 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