taigu "Henry Tan-Tenn"

taigu "Henry Tan-Tenn" 

Ti Taioan, "honggian" si chengti miasu; kokgoa "dialect" masi tiaNtiaN ti
hak-sut-kai chhut-hian, chengchha in e tam-poh-a kaisoeh kong: "Chinese
dialects" housiong be-thong-tit. (Chong--si, che-che hakchia iugoan e kong,
"suibong oe7 be7 thong, bunji siosiang". Lan tongjian chaiiaN "bunji
siothong" chit-ku bo chengkhak, kantaN pouhun e su5 thang piautat chhut-lai
na-nia.)

E-kha si 1-tiuN goa icheng sia hou Bikok-e Yamada Gigian Tiongsim e phoe,
chiamtui in chhuli "Chinese" chit-e "gigian" sou sanseng mautun e souchai
lai piautat ikian. In sou-ui e "Chinese", goa hoatkian, si hit-lo "Piauchun
Hoagi". Goa tongjian bo hibang in ka lan bang7 he7 toa3 "Chinese" e-kha e
"Taiwan". Goa kiangi in anchiau in bokcheng e hunlui the-kiong lenggoa 1-e
lui7. Khopi kong, in ka ui 17-seki Ho-lan-oe pun chhut-lai e "Lam-hui-oe"
(Afrikaans) siat toklip e lui-piat, piausi u koanhe e oe7 etang chiaNcho
bo-kang "gigian". In koh ka Enggi, Welsh, Gaelic hunkhui, anne piausi
kangkok e oe7 oanna esai si toklip e gigian. (Anchiau Tiongkoklang
thoanthong e hunlui, Tiongkok sou-u e oe7 tuliau koaN-oe, longsi honggian;
honggian etang chiaNcho koaN-oe, koaN-oe ma u kholeng piN honggian.)
In3-tou7 e Hindi kap Urdu, Tang-lam-a1 e Ma-lai-oe kap In-li-oe chin sio-oa,
ma long huncho 2-lui7. Chiau anne khoaN, u "benghian chha-piat" e Ho-lo-oe,
Kheh-oe, Kngtangoe, Sionghaioe...engkai tioh hunkhui chiah tioh.

Sitche siong leh? Li na7 khi khoaN che-che souchai e hunlui, long kong
houcho "dialects". Bunte m-si Kiatgak hiaN sou kong-e, "Taigi m-si Hangi";
bunte chai-ti u gigian hakchia jimui, "Taigi m-na si Hangi, koh si Hangi e
dialect"!

Goa bo hibang Yamada Gigian Tiongsim oanna chiau chit-e bousek chhuli.

Goa hibang u 1-kang Taioan e gigian hakka esai chiamtui "Holo/Khehgi si
Hangi dialects" e luntiam the-chhut sengbeng. Goa-e kamkak si, Tiongkok
gigian hakchia ti in kokgoa masi kesiok sak "honggian lun", ma bechio Sehng
hakchia phoehap.

--Honggiau


----- Original Message -----
From: Henry Tan-Tenn 
To: 


> Dear Staff:
>
> Regarding the Language-Related Mailing Lists on the Yamada Language Center
> website, I'd like to draw your attention to TAIGU, a Taiwanese list mostly
> written in Ho-lo-oe, known variously as Taiwanese, Amoy, Hokkien, Hoklo,
or
> Southern Min.
>
> Unlike the lists currently under "Chinese / Taiwan", TAIGU is conducted in
> Taiwanese. Following is a brief description:
>
> "Network for Taiwanese languages (TAIGU). Primarily a list focusing on
> Taiwan's language and language education reform, language activism,
> vernacular literature, cultural critique, and relevant issues (plus
greeting
> and announcements). Most discussions are conducted in Ho-lo-oe (mostly in
an
> ascii version of Peh-oe-ji, a century-old orthography); occasional posts
in
> English and the Hakka language. Discussion in/about Taiwan's indigenous
> (Austronesian) languages is welcomed. Subscribers include linguists,
> language educators, writers, activists, teachers, students, software
> engineers, language/literature enthusiasts, etc."
>
> Archive: <http://www.egroups.com/group/taigubang>
> Listserver:  (subscribe taigu email_here)
>
> I'd also like to briefly comment on the YLC classification for "languages"
> for this list. Noting that Africaans/Dutch, Basque/Catalan/Spanish, as
well
> as Indonesian/Malay are each treated separately, I at first find the
> category of "Chinese" to be rather broad and hence prone to ambiguity.
Upon
> further investigation, I find that in the YLC usage, Chinese often refers
to
> Mandarin as promoted by the states of China, Singapore, and Taiwan, hence
> references to "THE Chinese language". Therefore, I'd like to propose that
> TAIGU, if accepted for inclusion, be afforded separate classification
> outside that of "Chinese" and in line with the examples of
> Africaans/Dutch/German/Yiddish, English/Welsh/Gaelic, Hindi/Urdu, etc.
>
> Lolat! (Thanks!)
>
> --Henry H. Tan-Tenn
>
>