taigu "Simon Cheng"

taigu "Simon Cheng" 
Kok-ui chian-poe peng-an:

8/20 cho-iu Kau-iok-pou cheng-sek kong-po tui kok-hau 1 ni khai-si sit-si
bo-gu kau-iok, ji-chhiaN beh khai-si tiam su-hoan hak-hau poe-iong su-chu.
Tui Eng-gu e kau-hak na u u chu-goan ma bo pai-tu tui sio-hak 1 ni khai-si.
I-au Tai-oan si Eng-gu, Bo-gu kap Hoa-gu 3 hun e kiok-bin, piau-hian Tai-oan
Hai-iuN bun-hoa e tek-sek.

Chit hang siau-sit "Tiong-kok si-po" kap "Tai-oan Jit-po" long iong
thau-tiau e sin-bun chhu-li. Lian-hap-po ma u khan, m-koh m-si khan ti
thau-tiau sin-bun.

Che si kai-pian Tai-oan kau-iok hong-hiong e tiong-tai sin-bun. M-ku chin
ki-koai, chit tiau sin-bun khan chhut liau-au peng-bo u saN khoan e hoe-eng.
Kam kong si Kau-iok-pou e sin-iong pho-san, tak-ke iau bo siong-sin chit
hang cheng-chhek e-tang thu-tong?
M-chai lan bang-lou lai e peng-iu kam u thak-tioh iu-koan e pheng-lun?

Liongkng
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Subject: Re: sektong e writing system


taigu levin 

taigu levin 
Tada Kei sian-siN,

To-sia li-e chi-kau.

Goa the-khi Peh-oe-ji bo chhu-li e chit8-koa siaN-tiau bun-te,
si in-ui ti sit-che shu-sia (æ¸å¯«) e keng-giam lai-te, goa
hoat-kak na e-tang ti writing bin-teng hian3-si7 hia-e
chha-piat, e-sai kiam-chio "different words with the same
spelling" e cheng5-heng5. (Iu5-ki5 chia-e tiat-piat siaN-tiau
long si chiaN su-siong eng-tioh e words.)
Goa iau m-bat cho-koe thong-ke, kan-na si ti sit-chian-siong u
chit-khoan the-hoe.

Ki-sit, kin-a-jit lan Tai-oan so-su-iong e Pe-oe-ji ma bo chu-li
Choan-chiu-khiuN. (Cha-ki, chhin-chhiuN Douglas in tian-to u
chhu-li. Tong-jiam, TLPA--chit8-khoan "ponetic/phonemic
alphabet"--ma u chhu-li.) Lan be-tang houN-jin Tai-gi lai-te e
chia-e hong-gan-chha (æ¹è¨å·®).
Tai-khai si ti li the-khi e hit-phiN lun-bun lai-te, TiuN
Ju-hong kau-siu ma u kong--tioh: na e-tang li-iong
hong-gan-chha, e-sai kiam-chio "different words with the same
spelling" e cheng-heng. (Goa ti teng-hoe sou kong e te-saN tiam,
3), to-si beh piau-si chit-tiam. Chi-si goa-e siuN-hoat kah TiuN
kau-siu koh bo-kang. M-koh ti chia iau bo su-iau siong-se kong
chit-tiam.)

Bo m-tioh, bun-ji he-thong kap im-piau si 2-hang tai-chi, bun-ji
he-thong bo it-teng ai kap sit-che-siong e hoat-im oan-choan
kang-khoan. Goa oan-choan chan-seng.
Ki-sit, li-iong hong-gan-chha e chit-e kiat-ko to-si "the same
pronunciation with different spelling for a dialect group".
Chhin-chhiuN, "chopstick"--"ti7" kap "the preposition"--"ti7",
lan na li-iong TiuN kau-siu e he-tong, to e-tang ka hun-piat sia
cho "tujl" kap "til". An-ne, tui u chit-khoan hoat-im cha-piat e
khiuN-khong e lang lai kong, che si "different pronunciations
with different spellings"; m-ko, tui bo chit-khoan cha-piat e
khiuN-khau e lang lai kong, che si "the same pronunciation with
different spellings".
Cai goa lai siuN, chit-khoan cho-hoat chit8-hong-bin si
chun-tiong hong-gan-chha (goa si chiok bo hi-bang lan koh lai
piN sim-mih tai-it-thong (大ä¸çµ±); khiuN-khau chi-kan e
èåèå¦ï¼æ競ç­ï¼, to hou i ti hian-sit-tiong chu-jian
chin-heng), chit8-hong-bin e-tang cheng-ka bun-ji è¾¨è­ e
容æ度åé度.

Che to-si goa siuN beh kong--e: lan ai chu-i bun-ji
å¨è¾¨è­ä¸ç容æ度åé度.
SiuN beh chim-chiok siaN-tiau e hia-e chha-piat, siuN beh
chu-tiong hong-gan-chha, ki-sit long e-tang kong si ui-tioh
chit4 chit8-tiam.

Lan chit-ma ti chia sia phoe, tiaN-tiaN long bo piau-chhut
Peh-oe-ji e siaN-tiau hu-ho (diacritics). Goa si kam-kak
thak--khi-lai chiaN chiah-lat. Che to-si辨è­ä¸ e bun-te.

Bo m-tioh, be-tang tan Peh-oe-ji kai-sian a chiah lai chhui-heng
bo-gi, ma be-tang tan tak-ke tui bun-ji he-thong u kiong-sek a
chiah lai chhui-heng bo-gi e su-sia. Bo, kau-si lan-e bo-gi
koh-khah æ®ç ´, sim-chi i-keng biat-bong a.
Teng-hoe goa kong: "Chit-hun siaN-beng, goa chiok siuN beh kong:
'Goa oan-choan chan-seng.'" To-si siuN-tioh chit-tiam. Kian-kai
siuN-tioh chit-tiam to sim thiaN, heng-kham-te it-tit kun-ka.

Ho, goa chiam-chhiaN chiap-siu li-e kong-hoat: "Peh-oe-ji siong
sek-tong."
M-ko li ma jin-ui Peh-oe-ji ai kai-sian. Na an-ne, lan thah m ti
chit-e "siong sek-tong" e writing system bin-teng koh cho
kai-sian leh? (Bo-tiaN-tioh e-tang chit-pian chhui-heng,
sit-chian, chit-pian tho-lun. kai-sian.)

Goa leh siuN, na-chun tak-ke tui writing system iau bo
kiong-sek, ma e-tang eng chit-tho phonemic alphabet
(chhin-chhiuN TLPA) lai ki-lok a -- chi-iau lan sim-lai
chheng-chho che si im-piau, m-si bun-ji, to e-sai a. ChhiuN lin
thak gi-gian-hak e lang to long si iong im-piau lai ki-lok
bo-bun-ji e bin-chok e oe-gi.
An-ne cho iau u chit-e i-su: ho, lan seng-jin lan chit-ma iau bo
chit-tho tak-ke chip-siu e bun-ji! Lan seng-jim chit-tiam, ho-ho
ke-siok phah-piaN.

ChhiaN chi-kau.

Lou-lat.

Djavl Dibburn
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TADA Kei wrote:

> taigu "TADA Kei" 
>
> taigu "TADA Kei" 
> Djavl Dibburn (Levin) sian-siN,
>
> > Goa siuN beh kong e kan-na chit-tiam: Lan kam be-tang koh
> > kho-lu u-kho-leng koh-khah sek-tong e "writing system"?
>
> Goa kamkak li thekhi e bunte si chiok tiong-iau.
> Mko, hianchusi so'-u e taigi bunji he-thong lai-te
> , goa jim-ui, peh-oe-ji siong-kai sektong.
>
> Ti phoe laibin li ma sia-tioh sun-e taioan oe teh
> beh biatbong. Na si anne kin kio kauiokpo' sengjim
> Peh-oeji khah tioh.
>
> Goa ma kamkak peh-oeji ai kaisian. Tansi kaisian
> su-iau goa che sikan leh? Goa siuN, Peh-oeji kaisian u
> hose e sichun, siutioh takke e chanseng e sichun,
> Taioan-oe i-keng bo--khi ma bo itteng.
>
> Goa siuN TiuN Ju-hong kau-siu ti 1988 "Hiantai
> Taioan-oe Giankiu Lunbun-chip" p.35 so' kaisiau
> e honghoat be siutioh binchiong e hoan-geng.
>
> In-ui, siaN-tiau iong Alphabet sia-jipkhi imchat (
> syllable) e tiongkan. SiaNtiau na sia-mtioh, gi-so'
> (morpheme) e heng, long bo kangkhoan.
>
> > 1) An-ne su-eng "hyphen" sit-chai kam-kak ngaih
> > -gioh, ma bo hong-pian.
> Goa ma kamkak anne.
>
> > 2) U-e siaN-tiau, Peh-oe-ji iau bo (a-si chin phaiN)
> > chhu-li:...
> >? 2] Ang I-jinï¼æ´ªæä»ï¼chin-cha to kong-tioh中
> > é調ãçè¼è²...
>
> Li na kong bunji he-thong kap impiau si 2-hang taichi,
> Anne bunji he-thong bo itteng ai kap sit-che-siong e
> hoat-im oanchoan kang-khoan.
>
> >? 3] ...eng-kai si "ko2-kha2". M-koh goa an-choa
> > thiaN ma si thiaN choe "ko1-kha1".
>
> Si. Goa ka peh-oe-ji e sichun, tioh kaisoeh kong;
> "koh-khah" liam-cho "ko1-kha1" msi "ko2-kha2"
> anne.
>
> > Chit-e hok-heng e khang-khoe, bo-tiaN-tioh chu
> > -iau ai ui ç°éå·¥ä½ lai cho-khi.
>
> Tian-ia kangchok chin tiong-iau. Goa ma chiok
> siuN beh cho chit-khoan giankiu.
>
> ChhiaN Toto chikau.
>
> TADA Kei siong.
> Tokyo taihak gugianhak giankiuseng
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