taigu "Kiatgak"

taigu "Kiatgak" 
Hoat-lut e bun-te goa bo liau-kai. Bang-lou teng e hiaN-che u khah
chheng-cho--e, si-m-si e-sai soat-beng--1-e?
Si siaN-mih hoat-lut kui-teng lan ai sia han-ji, ai kong Pak-kiaN-gi?

Goa ko-jin e khoaN-hoat si:
1. Si-m-si e-sai seng-lip i-au, chiah-koh chhiaN sio-chou e seng-oan
teng-chhut ju siong-se e ke-oe?
2. Ki-pun siong si beh cheng-chhu eng POJ su-sia kok chok-kun e bo-gi
(chi-chio kap eng han-ji su-sia e Pak-kiaN-gi u kang-khoan e te-ui)
3. Tng-ki e bok-phiau si beh hui-tu Chu-im-hu-ho, Pak-kiaN-gi, han-ji.
4. Ti Tai-oan-kok iau-boe kian-lip chin-cheng, cho e-kau--e sit-chai
iu-han.

Kiatgak


> Taike CTT!!!
> "Chengchhu POJ/TOJ e te-ui" si chin ho e issue.
> Bunte si: "te-ui" e level beh khng ti toui?Hianhoat?Hoatlut?
> asi heng-cheng beng-leng?LiphoatiN?Kauiokpou???
> Please clarify it.
> Babuza Chu
>
> ----- Original Message -----
> From: Kiatgak 
> To: TiuN Hokkchu ; phoehun 
> Cc: Taigu Bang 
> Sent: Sunday, October 15, 2000 10:52 AM
> Subject: Seng-lip POJ bun-ji te-ui sio-chou(Re: æ¼¢èªæ¼é³éä¸éç¨?)
>
>
> > taigu "Kiatgak" 
> >
> > taigu "Kiatgak" 
> > Si-m-si than chit-ma lai seng-lip "POJ bun-ji te-ui sio-chou",
kang-khoan
> > koa ti Tai-oan-kok Lo-ma-ji Hiap-hoe (TLH).
> > ChhiaN Ui-bun kap/iah-si Phoe-hun lai chhoa-thau.
> > Li-iong chit-e si-ki lai hoat-siaN. (Lam-sia e lam-hong-lun-toaN iah-si
> > ki-thaN e po-choa/khan-but.)
> > Sio-chou e bok-te:
> > 1. Cheng-chhu POJ bun-ji te-ui. (seng-jin POJ sia--e bun-su ma si
> > cheng-sek e bun-su.)
> > 2. Hui chu-im-hu-ho kap han-ji.
> > 3. ...
> >
> > I-siong, chhiaN chham-kho.
> >
> > Kiatgak
> >
> >
> > ----- Original Message -----
> > From: phoehun 
> > To: 
> > Sent: Saturday, October 14, 2000 5:32 AM
> > Subject: Re: æ¼¢èªæ¼é³éä¸éç¨?
> >
> >
> > > taigu "phoehun" 
> > >
> > > taigu "phoehun" 
> > > Uibun kap Banglou e hiaNche:
> > >
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> thuisak
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> > >
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"Hui-han-ji]
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> chitma
> > > muithe tng teh chha, lan kholeng esai sun chit e se, kesiok ka chha
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> > toa
> > > leh.
> > >
> > > Ou chibeng, hou Gatlam e bunji LMJ hoa sengkong, chiok tiongiau e si
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> > > Mchai lan Taioan bunji LMJ hoa esai sengkong e sise si tangsi?
> > >
> > > KhoaN khilai chit e sichun kanna si siki.
> > >
> > > Mchai hiaNche kam u siaNmih siuNhoat esai lai anchoaN cho?
> > >
> > > --Phoehun
> > >
> > > From: Taiffalo Chiung 
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> > > Sent: 2000å¹´10æ12æO͘ PM 10:20
> > > Subject: æ¼¢èªæ¼é³éä¸éç¨?
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