Re: Sin chheh chhut pan: POJ vs. TLPA

2002-06-27
KTH ti Tai-gi e pou-hun an-sng beh kio POJ, TLPA kap Thong-Iong kok-piat theh-chhut po-ko POJ e pou-hun si goa sia. Sia e si-chun goa siuN ai chiam-tui kui-e-a tak-ke tiaN-tiaN theh-khi e bun-te, c.c. si-m-si ai piau pian-tiau khah-ho, si-m-si TI kap Eng-gi khah chiap-kin t.t e bun-te. Goa an-sng beh chhoe siong-koan e lun-bun ka lang kong koe e mih-kiaN tong-cho cheng-ku. Sou-i lan na u siong-koan e tong-an chhiaN kia hou goa. Bok-cheng goa chu-iau e chham-kho chu-liau si TiuN Ju-hong k.s. hit pun chheh.
Hak-khiam



----- Original Message -----
From: "Tojhokchu" 
To: "ungian,pchome" ; "keith cheng"

Cc: "Hak-khiam" ; ;
"" 
Sent: Friday, June 28, 2002 9:14 PM
Subject: Re: [TGB] Sin chheh chhut pan: POJ vs. TLPA


> Tai-ke CTT!
> 1.Tioh!
> 2.TTS e cho-lang goa sit-chai bo liau-kai,
> sui-bong i bat ti Tai-oan Bun-hoa Hak-inn
> ka goa ka3-koe Han-gi Im-un-hak(1994)!
> Na-si cheng-keng chiah-nih ok-chit
> (kong chit-khoan, cho leng-goa chit-khoan),
> lan u pit-iau chhoe-chhut chit-e kiong-sek lai cho guide.
> 3.Hak-khiam kin-a-jit ti KTH khui-hoe,
> u sim-mih kiat-lun/hoat-tian bo?
> Babuza
>
>
> ----- Original Message -----
> From: ungian,pchome 
> To: keith cheng 
> Cc: Hak-khiam ; ; 
> 
> Sent: Friday, June 28, 2002 10:56 AM
> Subject: Re: [TGB] Sin chheh chhut pan: POJ vs. TLPA
>
>
> > Takke ho :
> >
> > Goa si kamkah kuiNmng khui GTH si kiaN boe thong e. Chichio chhiuN
> > TangTiongsi chitkhoanlang, ti li bin cheng si 1 tho, ti li aupiah koh si
> > lenggoa 1 tho, nasi kah chitkhoan lang kongoe kam u louiong ?
> > JichhiaN lan simlai ma chai, na kasu hiah e lang hiahni ho kongoe,
> > Taigubun boe bu kau chite khamcham.
> >
> > Tongjian lan tui TLPA iahsi Thongiong, lan kaki iahbo 1 e bengkhak
> > e kiongsek, soui iha goa kanna kong goa kojin e siuNhoat.
> >
> > (1) Huho beh annoa soantek , si esai tholun e, bo 100% oanbi e
> > huho, soui beh kong chittho huho u goa bai chin kantan, mkoh
> > che ma boetang chengbeng lenggoa 1 tho to bo buntoe.
> >
> > (2) Kasu huho kengcheng e ketheng, si iong bo chengtong e
> > chhiu-oan, simchi si beh ka tuihong ah loh toe (chhiuN chitma
> > Tangtiongsi tui POJ e kongkek ), lan sitchai bo engkai tiN
> > tiamtiam. Chhui kong e kholeng msi ho panhoat, lang iong
> > sia e , pehchoa sia ouji, lan ma ai pehchoa sia ouji chiah
> > u louiong.
> >
> > Goa kojin e kamkah si, chitma Thongiong (goa kojin jimui bo
> > kahsek itsek e buntoe, thongiong kana 1 chiong) khoaNtioh
> > TLPA chhiuN chiahchoe chugoan, soui in ka TLPA tongchoe
> > tekjin. TLPA si ka POJ tongchoe tekjin (tongjian che msi kong
> > souu chhaiiong TLPA e lang long anne, chisi bo piausi ikian
> > e lang bo siaNim, u hoatsiaN e chuiau longsi tih kongkek
> > POJ) si inui in kamkah POJ e chunchai e ittit uihiap TLPA
> > "chengthong" e te-ui.
> >
> > Ungian 2002.6.28
> >
> > Ti Fri, 28 Jun 2002 01:31:41 +0800 e si-chun
> > keith cheng  sia i-ha e loe-iong :
> >
> > > Kok-ui hiaN-che:
> > >
> > > KhoaN Kiatgak hiaN tui Tang TS e bun-toaN7 an-ne jin-chin phe-pheng,
goa
> ia u koa kam-siong.
> > > Khi2-thau5 khoaN-tioh chit-phiN chin hoe2 toa7. Beh sia phe-pheng, koh
> siuN-kong long-hui si-kan, beh
> > > kong--e, cha2 tioh kong-liau--ah.
> > >
> > > Koh leng-goa, TLPA si liong-seng e keng-cheng-chia (in teh thui-sak
> Tai-gi chin-chiaN si chhut-lat, sui-
> > > bong kong in ka7 ko3-jin5 e li-ek he ti Tai-gi e li-ek lai-bin), a-si
> tek-jin (chiau in an-ne bu, e ka Tai-gi bu2--
> > > si2) chit-e bun-te, na-chhiuN iau-ku ti lan bang--nih bo it-ti e
> siuN-hoat.
> > >
> > > Chio-eng Tai-tok Thoan-the choe-kin kui-tang e hoan2-seng kap
kiam-tho,
> u 1-e tiong-iau e kiat-lun.
> > > Tai-tok e lang phiaN-se ti kang7-khou-a lai e lang, keng2-chhut in e
> mou5-peN, tiam-chhut in bo-
> > > sun5 e sou-chai, phah hou in "giat-auh8 chhia-pun3-tau2". Kiat-ko
> tek-jin ju lai ju che, tong-chi lu lai lu chio.
> > > Un-tong na cho, lang na chio.
> > >
> > > Tai-gi-bun un-tong kam ia si an-ne?
> > > TLPA ok-chit e sou-chai u, bo hak-sut liong-sim (ethics) e sou-chai u,
> Chi-na mentality u,........ Bai sou-chai
> > > 10 ki chng2-thau5 sng be liau.
> > > M-koh in kam u teh phah-piaN beh hou Tai-gi koh oah-khi-lai?
> > > Chit-e bun-te siong-tong tiong-iau.
> > > Na u, goa jin-ui bo su-iau ka in tong-cho tek-jin.
> > > Na bo, thai5 hou si!
> > >
> > > Put-koan an-choaN, TLPA an-choaN au3, chong-si ai hou hiah-e lang
chai.
> Goa kian-gi lan kam u kho-
> > > leng thau-koe koan-to lai kap in khui gian-tho-hoe, cho pian-lun
(phi-ju
> kio Tai-lian e lip-ui khui koaiN-mng
> > > e gian-tho-hoe, bo tui-goa kong-khai hit-khoan), beh thai tiam
pang-keng
> lai-bin thai. Mai thai chhut khi kau
> > > goa-khau, khiong-kian e siah-tiau Tai-gi-bun e khi-se.
> > >
> > > I-siong
> > > Si-chong
> > >
> > >
> > >
> > >
> > >
> > > 2002/6/27 PM 09:30:08, ""  wrote:
> > >
> > > >
> > > >
> > > > From: "" 
> > > >
> > > > To: "Hak-khiam" , 
> > > > Subject:Re: [TGB] Sin chheh chhut pan: POJ vs. TLPA
> > > > Date: Thu, 27 Jun 2002 21:30:08 +0800
> > > >
> > > >
> > > >
> > > > Taike ho,
> > > >
> > > > Chit laite ue kong gah chiann u toli (huhap susit jichhiann logic e
> thong),
> > > > ue to u bunte (bo huhap susit asi logic be thong). Chiann taike
> banbana
> > > > tholun.
> > > >
> > > >
> > > > Ti chia goa seng pouchhiong 2 tiam:
> > > >
> > > > 1. Chiahe chuliau khoann--khilai kap 1999/12/12 e Taioan Gibun
> Chengchhek
> > > > GTH hoatpiau--e oanchoan kangkhoan. Tosi kong, chitkoa u bunte e
> pouhun u
> > > > kihoe kaicheng, mkoh peng bo kai.
> > > >
> > > >
> > > > 2. "(33) Kah, It imphiau pikaupio" si leh pikau "Thongiong Imphiau"
e
> > > > "Kahsek" kap "Itsek". Msi POJ vs. TLPA.
> > > >
> > > > Ti chia goa beh kiongtiau 2 e TLPA e bunte:
> > > >
> > > > 1. ?å¯ä»¥ä½¿èºç£ é©åèªåå®¢å®¶è©±åè
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> > > >
> > > >
> > > > Che si 1 e kipun e bunte: taute simmih si TLPA? I e hoanui kau
tohui?
> TLPA e
> > > > chuliau tui che long bo kong chhengchho.
> > > >
> > > > Chiau chit ku oe, engkai si u pauham GCB gigian. Mkoh Kauiokpou
> kongpou--e
> > > > sitche siong iau msi 1 e hongan. (esai anchoann, esai anchoann, ...
> bo
> > > > bengkhak tengchhut 1 e hongan.
<http://www.edu.tw/mandr/bbs/1-4-4.htm>)
> > > >
> > > > 2. 2.æè²é¨å
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> > > >
> > > > Che si lenggoa 1 e kipun e bunte: siatke TLPA e bokphiau si siann?
> > > >
> > > > Chiau chit ku oe, TLPA si beh tongcho imphiau lai suiong. Na anni,
i
> e
> > > > siatke sitche siong bo tatkau i e bokphiau.
> > > >
> > > >
> > > > Mtann i e im bo chun nia (chit tiam chiann taike banbana tholun), u
e
> im
> > > > TLPA ma betang piausi (chhiann mng: kejipsiann, te "8" siann e
> piantiau,
> > > > TLPA beh anchoann piausi), kohkhah tiongiau--e si TLPA kinpun to bo
> chunchai
> > > > e pitiau.
> > > >
> > > >
> > > > Chhiann siunn khoannmai, 1 phinn lunbun laite sia "oo", "ee", "er",
> ...
> > > > khoann e lang beh anchoann chaiiann i e chengkhak hoatim? Simsi koh
> ai eng
> > > > IPA (kokche imphiau) lai piausi. Na anni, eng IPA lai piausi
imphiau
> to ho--
> > > > a, na tioh eng TLPA?
> > > >
> > > >
> > > > TLPA kholeng iukoh si lenggoa 1 tho pophomofo, kiann be chhut
Taioan.
> > > >
> > > > TLPA ti haksutkai eng khah che, mchai Taioan e haksutkai nah e
> chiapsiu eng
> > > > TLPA lai sia lunbun? Phahsng bo beh hou kokche siong e hakchia
khoann
> u?
> > > > Phahsng TLPA betang piausi e hoanui to bian giankiu--a?
> > > >
> > > >
> > > > Isiong,
> > > >
> > > > Kiatgak
> > > >
> > > >
> > > > ----- Original Message -----
> > > > From: Hak-khiam
> > > > To: 
> > > > Sent: Thursday, June 27, 2002 5:07 PM
> > > >
> > > > Subject: [TGB] Sin chheh chhut pan: POJ vs. TLPA
> > > >
> > > > Tak-ke ho:
> > > >
> > > > Choe-kin khoaN chit pun sin-chheh.
> > > > U kong tioh POJ kap TLPA. Chhau pou-hun hou tak-ke khoaN mai leh.
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