----- Original Message ----- From: Henry H. Tan-Tenn To: TAIGU Sent: Thursday, August 03, 2000 2:48 PM Subject: Re: ICRT kap Hinet

> taigu "Henry H. Tan-Tenn" 
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> taigu "Henry H. Tan-Tenn" 
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> Chiau bokcheng e kiokse lai khoaN, Holooe kap Khehoe nasi u hoattou cho
kau
> Hiangkang Kngtangoe e thengtou toh sng si 1-chiong kekbeng a. Hianchhusi
> goa kojin bo siaN care bunji iahsi imphiau joa u li-siong iahsi joa bo
> lisiong, hui-tit na7 bo hoattou hou sia-hoe chiapsiu toh kap Esperanto sio
> siang, bo lou iong. Ju-ko Tekkok u hoat-tou iong 1-tho bo li-siong e
> pheng-im-hoat piau-tat chhut Beethoven, Einstein, Marx....chiah-e lang e
> su-siong, che chiah si tiong-iau e. PhaiN oh, phaiN sia, bo
hongpian...che
> long si chhu-iau e. Che toh kap i-hak kangkhoan, bo kholeng tan2 kau
> liau-kai 1-e peN liau-kai thau-thiat chiah khai-si lai i 1-e hoanchia,
> hit-chun ikeng siuN oh a, be-hu a. Goa chong-si kamkak, na7 bo goan-i
> chinheng bogi hok-heng e khangkhoe, koh khah kantan, lisiong e honghoat
> kiongkiaN ma si leksu siong e 1-e tiam2, be-tang kai-pian siaNmi. Sou-i
> sui-bong hakchia chiaN tiong-iau, goa koh khah tiongsi bunhak-ka.
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> Isiong piau-tat e si goa kojin e 1-chiong "impatience", chit-chiong
khimochi
> ti-su goa ai khi chhoe chhut goa-e priority.
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> --Honggiau
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> ----- Original Message -----
> From: levin
> To: bongpo
> Cc: tavokan khinhoann ; 
> Sent: Monday, July 31, 2000 5:03 PM
> Subject: Re: ICRT kap Hinet
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> Takke ho,
> Chit-hun siaN-beng, goa chiok siuN beh kong: "Goa oan-choan chan-seng."
> M-ko goa bo hoat-tou.
> Siong tiong-iau e chit-tiam si: Peh-oe-ji kam si sek-tong e "writing
> system"?
> 1) An-ne su-eng "hyphen" sit-chai kam-kak ngaih-gioh, ma bo hong-pian.
> 2) U-e siaN-tiau, Peh-oe-ji iau bo (a-si chin phaiN) chhu-li:
> 1] è¤åè²èª¿, TLPA eng "9" lai piau-si, na chhin-chhiuNè¤åè²èª¿ kan-na
> chit-khoan nia, goa ma kam-kak bo sek-tong. M-koh, Peh-oe-ji long bo
> chhu-li.
> ("Goa-nih" e "goa" chai goa siuN si "goa7-a2" liam kin e ket-ko. "Eng"
> si "e-hng"....iau-u hia-e goa-lai-gi, chhin-chhiuN "mai-sin",
"sian-se"....)
> (Sin-soa kong chit-tiam: TLPA i-keng ka ka-ti teng-ui cho
> "Phonetic/Phonemic Alphabet"ï¼é³æ¨ï¼, to piau-si i m-si "Writing system"
> ï¼æå­ï¼. Sou-i goa si kam-kak m-bian siuN koa-sim.)
>
> 2] Ang I-jinï¼æ´ªæä»ï¼chin-cha to kong-tioh中é調ãçè¼è²ååè¼è² e
> hian-siong (ti hit-pun Chu-lip chhut e tho-lun siaN-tiau e chheh) . Goa
> kam-kak, chia-e hian-siong si chin-sit--e, chi-put-koè¼è² e bun-te
> bo-tia-tioh pi Ang I-jin kong--e koh-khah hok-chap. Goa siuN, Tai-oan-oe e
> bun-ji khiong-kiaN be-tang bo chhu-li chit-e hian-siong.
> 3] Iau-koh chit-e hian-siong, ki-sit ma i-king u-lang kong--koe a:
> chhin-chhiuN teng-chit-toaN e "koh-khah hok-chap" e "koh-khah", Peh-oe-ji
> peng-siong si-m-si long ka "koh" tong-choe "koh4", ka "khah" tong-choe
> "khah4"? Na an-ne, pian-tiau i-au eng-kai si "ko2-kha2". M-koh goa an-choa
> thiaN ma si thiaN choe "ko1-kha1".
> (Chit-khoan le chin-che [é¿æ伯æ¸å­è¡¨ç¤ºè®èª¿ä»¥å¾çè²èª¿] : M-koh1;
> mai-koh1 an-ne lah; khu-leh1 chiah-png; goa kah1 li; soah1 phah-bo--khi;
kam
> u chiah1-ho; hiah1 kang-hu--tioh; li beh1 an-choaN; khah1-su gin-a....
Chia
> si chit-chiong hian-siong a-si nng-saN-chiong hian-siong [chi-si
> piau-bin-siong si kang-chit-e hian-siong], goa m chai-iaN.)
> Ko-ling gi-gian-hak-ka ai koh ti chit-hong-bin ho-ho-a gian-kiu chiah
> e-sai--tit. (Na i-king u chit-hong-bin e gian-kiu, chhiaN chiah po ho goa
> chai. To-sia.)
> Na-chun chia-e "words" siaN-tiau e an-ne pian-hoa si in-ui in-e
"pun-tiau"
> ki-sit m-si "4", si leng-goa u lan kau-taN iau m-chai-iaN e "pun-tiau",
goa
> siuN, lan-e bun-ji ma ai cho chit-e chhu-li. (Tong-jian, na-chun in-e
> "pun-tiau" khak-sit si "4", lan tioh-ai chhoe-chhut i-e kui-chek.)
> a̍Chia-e bun-te kah hian-siong, chin-cha i-cheng TiuN Ju-hongï¼å¼µè£å®ï¼
> kau-siu ti "Tai-oan Hong"ï¼å°ç£é¢¨ï¼chit-pun chheh so-the-gi e "writing
> system", goa si kam-kak to long e-tang chhu-li ah, sui-jian kho-leng
ai-koh
> siu-kai. (TiuN kau-siu au--lai ma u koh ke-siok siu-kai. Ti æ鶴åºççä¸æ¬
èO̍͘
> æé裡 e-tang thak--tioh. TiuN kau-siu e chit-e gi-an, TeN kau-siu eng-kai
> long chai-iaN.) Goa m-chai-iaN si an-choaN chin chio lang kong-khi.a̍
> 3) Goa iau u chit-e siuN-hoat, kho-leng chin-chio u-lang e chan-seng
> (Ki-sit, chap-kui-ni-cheng, goa bat ka TiuN kau-siu kong-koe chit-e
> siuN-hoat, m-koh i to bo chan-seng): Chi-chio ti Eng-bun, kang-khoan e
> "spelling" e-tang u bo-kang-khoan e "pronunciations". Lan kam be-eng-tit
> iong kang-khoan e "spelling" piau-si bo-kang khiuN-khau e "words"? Chai
goa
> siuN, na e-sai an-ne cho, bo-tiaN-tioh e-tang kiam-chio ç°è©åå­(spelling)
e
> cheng-heng.
> Chit-tiam, goa kam-kak Peh-oe-ji kho-leng khah-phaiN cho e-kau.
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> Goa siuN beh kong e kan-na chit-tiam: Lan kam be-tang koh kho-lu
u-kho-leng
> koh-khah sek-tong e "writing system"?
> Sia-hoe seng-pun? Goa m-chai-iaN. M-koh, na-chun ka chit-tho bo sek-tong e
> "writing system" chhui-kong loh-khi kau-iok the-he i-au, na beh koh kai,
> hit-e seng-pun kho-leng koh-khah koan.
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> Kho-leng i-siong e bun-te tak-ke cha to tho-lun kah bo ai tho-lun ah.
> Na-chun an-ne, si-m-si e-tang ka goa kai-siau kui-phiN-a iu-kkoan e
lun-bun
> khoaN-mai leh?
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> Leng-goa chit-e bun-te:
> Tai-oan-oe (Hoh-lo-oe) si goa-e bo-gi. M-ko, m-kaN koai pat-lang, goa
it-tit
> long kong be lian-tng (Kho-leng 6-hoe chin-cheng iau m-bat-"ji" e si si
goa
> ui-it Tai-oan-oe kong liau khah ho e si-chun). It-tit siuN beh ka
> oh-tng--lai, it-tit long bo cho--kau.
> Su-siong kah peng-iu khai-kang, kong-tioh koah-a oe-te to chu-jian kai
iong
> Tiong-kok-oe kong, sit-chai chin kian-siau.
> Ti tian-si a-si la-ji-oh thiaN-tioh e Tai-oan-oe, sim-chi ti tai-pou-hun
> lang sia e Tai-bun lai-te so-khoaN--tioh e (tong-jian ma pau-koa chit-tiuN
> poe), bo-lun si "vocabulary" a-si "syntax", goa kam-kak long u ciaN
> giam-tiong e "Mandarinized" (m-chai e-sai an-ne sia bou) e hian-siong.
> Goa cai-iaN, gi-gian bo "sun-e" ("pure"). M-ko, u-tang-si-a "ho-un" (chai
> hian-chu-si lai khoaN, che sit-chai si ai sng-cho "ho-un") thiaN-tioh
E-kang
> m-bat-"ji" e a-kong, a-ma teh kong-oe, to kam-kak he kah su-siong ti
> tian-si, la-ji-oh thiaN-tioh a-si ti Tai-bun bun-chiuN so-thak-tioh e
> bo-kang.
> So-i, goa leh siuN, beh chhui-heng bo-gi ma tioh-ai hok-heng bo-gi, ai
> ho-ho-a hiong lan khah bo siu-tioh Tiong-kok-oe eng-hiong e a-kong, a-ma
oh.
> (Goa toa Tai-pak, khang-khoe chiaN bo-eng, it-tit siuN beh tng-khi E-kang,
> kap m-bat-"ji" e hia-e a-kong, a-ma toa tau-tin, kap in oh gi-gian, it-tit
> cho be-kau. KhoaN-tioh Tai-oan-oe tit-titæ®ç ´ loh-khi, sit-chai ut-chut.
> U-tang-si-a, chiok siuN beh Tai-pak e thau-lo si-si leh, khi E-kang
chng-kha
> so-chai ku, si-ke chhoe a-kong, a-ma khai-kang, ma bo chit-e chai-tiau.
> Sit-chai kian-siau!)
> Goa siuN beh kong e chit-tiam si: Tong-jian ma chan-seng chhui-heng bo-gi,
> m-koh lan tioh tong-si koaN-kin hok-heng bo-gi. Chai hian-chu-si e
> cheng-heng, goa sit-chai m-kaN iong goa chit-khoan Tai-oan-oe khi ka
> e-chit-te.
> Chit-e hok-heng e khang-khoe, bo-tiaN-tioh chu-iau ai ui ç°éå·¥ä½ lai
> cho-khi.
> Goa hoan-lo e si: su-chu kah kau-chai. ChhiuN goa chit-khoan Tai-oan-oe,
> a-si pi goa ho bo kau-toe e Tai-oan-oe, na khi "chhui-heng", si m-si chiaN
> hai? Kau-boe au-chit-te si-m-si e kong: "Tai-oan-oe kah Tiong-kong-oe kam
u
> chha-piat? Chi-put-ko hoat-im bo-kang nia? Bo-kang e words chiaN iu-han?"
> ----
> Tong-jian, m-si kong an-ne to mai chhui-heng ah.
> Goa kan-na beh piau-si: lan kho-leng iau u chiok che ki-chho khang-khoe
> iau-boe cho ho leh.
> ----
> Kui-ni-cheng, goa bat ka TiuN kau-siu e writing systemè®é éï¼ka-ti
su-eng.
> Chit-kui-ni lai, thau-lo bo-eng, chit-e he-tong kap Peh-oe-ji long chin
han
> su-iong a. So-i bin-teng e spelling kho-leng chin-che teng-taN e sou-chai,
> chhiaN goan-liong.
> Chak-cho, lou-lat!
> Djavl Dibburn
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