Re: Mng-koan 2
Hak-khiam HiaN, goa koh lai..a. :) Na u-eng, e-bin e hoe-tap chiah chhiaN li bong2 khoaN. Lou-lat. Lip-bun (Bo tiuN-ti koh sia kah chit8-toa-thoaN. PhaiN-se. Chioh chit-e ki-hoe thou chit-e-a toa-khui..leh.) (Babuza i-su kong goa chit-tai tian-nau tiong-tok..a. Goa ka PC-cillin "update'..a, ma sau3 koe tok8..a, iu-oan liah8 bo5 hit-chiah phaiN-mih. Na kok-ui hiaN-che koh hoat-kak goa sang3 peN-tok chhut--khi, chiah chhiaN ka goa kong2--chit-e.)
----- Original Message ----- From: ntttc Cc: ; KhinhoaN ; ; keith cheng Sent: Tuesday, August 28, 2001 11:58 AM Subject: Mng-koan2
Tak-ke ho: ChhiaN thiam-sia tau theh-kiong i-kian. Lou-lat. Hak-khiam ä¸ï¼å°èªæä½¿ç¨æ å½¢ï¹ ä½ è®éä¸ååªäºå°èªæï¼ä»¥ä»éº¼æ¸é¢èªï¼å¯è¤é¸ï¼ 1ï¼æ¼¢æå¤å ¸æå¸ 1. He kam2 TG? (Goa ti Tai-oan siu kau-iok, bian kong ma thak--koe. M-koh he m-si TG.) ï¼1.æ²æè®éï¼2.å¶ç¾è®ï¼3.æå¸¸è®ï¼ ï¼h.æ¼¢åï¼l.ç¾ é¦¬åï¼hl. æ¼¢åæ··åç¾ é¦¬åï¼ 2ï¼æ°éæå¸ï¼ä¿èªãè¬èªãæ°éæ äºãæè¬ ãæ²èï¼ 2. khah-cha khah-chiap8 thak. Kui-na-ni lai chiah8 thau-lou siuN bo-eng, thak khah-chio. ï¼1.æ²æè®éï¼2.å¶ç¾è®ï¼3.æå¸¸è®ï¼ ï¼h.æ¼¢åï¼l.ç¾ é¦¬åï¼hl. æ¼¢åæ··åç¾ é¦¬åï¼hiah-e chai-liau tai-pou-hun long iong HJ, goa chun-tu-ho bian-kiong thak. Na u LMJ chham cho-hoe..e, goa tong-jian long e7 khi tiuN-ti. 3ï¼å°èªè©©æ2. U si-kan, u khoaN--tioh, to7 thak. ï¼1.æ²æè®éï¼2.å¶ç¾è®ï¼3.æå¸¸è®ï¼ ï¼h.æ¼¢åï¼l.ç¾ é¦¬åï¼hl. æ¼¢åæ··åç¾ é¦¬åï¼ kah te-2 sio-siang. 4ï¼ç¾ä»£æå¸ï¼å°èªªãæ£æãæ²åï¼kah te-3 sio-siang. ï¼1.æ²æè®éï¼2.å¶ç¾è®ï¼3.æå¸¸è®ï¼ ï¼h.æ¼¢åï¼l.ç¾ é¦¬åï¼hl. æ¼¢åæ··åç¾ é¦¬åï¼ 5ï¼å®æä½åï¼ä½ç¶ãèç¶çï¼khah-cha bat sio-khoah-a thak-koe "Bible", m-koh kam-kak kah goa sou-bat e TG cheng-chha chiaN che7, thak kah chiaN chiah-lat, to bo ka7 thak--loh-khi..a. Na7 Put-keng, kam u sim-mih "keng" u TG ek-pun? Goa m-bat thak--koe. (Teng-hoe Jason HiaN mng-tioh "Heart Sutra" e tai-chi, bat kong-tioh chit-e bun-te.) Seng-keng e sin-ek-pun, goa m-bat khoaN--koe. Chhi-bin-siong na-chhiuN u HJ sia2..e e sin-ek-pun, goa thak be7 loh--khi. Goa si jin-ui: lan na e-tang chhoe tioh TG khah goan-chiap e si-toa lai tau-saN-kang, koh ka Bible teng5 ek--koe, ma7 ka7lang khah-chiap leh thak e hiah-e Put-keng ek--chhut-lai, m-na chin ho, ma chiok tiong-iau..e. An-ne, tui TG kah POJ e thui-tian it-teng chiaN u pang-chan. (Bian kong2 che si toa kang-teng5.) ï¼1.æ²æè®éï¼2.å¶ç¾è®ï¼3.æå¸¸è®ï¼ ï¼h.æ¼¢åï¼l.ç¾ é¦¬åï¼hl. æ¼¢åæ··åç¾ é¦¬åï¼ 6ï¼æ¯èªææ** ï¼1.æ²æè®éï¼2.å¶ç¾è®ï¼3.æå¸¸è®ï¼ **2. ï¼h.æ¼¢åï¼l.ç¾ é¦¬åï¼hl. æ¼¢åæ··åç¾ é¦¬åï¼ khoaN heh kau-chai si iong siaN-mih bun-ji he-thong. 7ï¼å¸ç§æç§æ¸ ï¼1.æ²æè®éï¼2.å¶ç¾è®ï¼3.æå¸¸è®ï¼ 1. ï¼h.æ¼¢åï¼l.ç¾ é¦¬åï¼hl. æ¼¢åæ··åç¾ é¦¬åï¼ 8ï¼ç¾ä»£åãç¥èæ§çæç« ï¼ç§æãå·¥åãå¸è¡æåï¼ chit8-si5 kan-na siuN-tioh TeN ks kah TiuN Ju-hong ks e bun-chiuN. ï¼1.æ²æè®éï¼2.å¶ç¾è®ï¼3.æå¸¸è®ï¼ 2. ï¼h.æ¼¢åï¼l.ç¾ é¦¬åï¼hl. æ¼¢åæ··åç¾ é¦¬åï¼ TeN ks kah TiuN ks long iong Han-lo, goa chun-tu-ho thak hl--louh. 9ï¼å®æ¹æä»¶ãæ£å¼å ¬æãæè°è¨é Hah, siuN-tioh TLH e chiong-theng. Na7 m-si hit-kang ti seng-lip tai-hoe thak--koe, goa to m-bat thak-koe chit-khoan mih-kiaN--louh. ï¼1.æ²æè®éï¼2.å¶ç¾è®ï¼3.æå¸¸è®ï¼ ï¼h.æ¼¢åï¼l.ç¾ é¦¬åï¼hl. æ¼¢åæ··åç¾ é¦¬åï¼ åï¼å°å°èªæç¼å±ççæ³ å°ä½ èè¨ï¼ä¸åå°èªæé¡è®å¯«ç¼å±çéè¦æ§çºä½ï¼ ï¼1ï¼å¾ä¸éè¦ 2ï¼ä¸éè¦ 3ï¼ç¡æè¦ 4ï¼éè¦ 5ï¼å¾éè¦ï¼ 1ï¼æ¼¢æå¤å ¸æå¸ 1. (Kong--koe..a, he m-si TG.) ï¼1ï¼å¾ä¸éè¦ 2ï¼ä¸éè¦ 3ï¼ç¡æè¦ 4ï¼éè¦ 5ï¼å¾éè¦ï¼ 2ï¼æ°éæå¸ï¼ä¿èªãè¬èªãæ°éæ äºãæè¬ ãæ²èï¼ 5. (M-koh ai khoaN-khoan. ChhiaN khoaN e-bin e soat-beng.)**Theh "Hok-choan Tai-gan Gi-tian" (ç¦å ¨å°è«ºèªå ¸) te-1-iah lai kong2---- Goa e7 an-ne mng: "it4-to liong2-toan7" kam si TG? Ho, chiaN chiap thiaN lang kong, chun2 i si7. "it4-liam7 chi chha"--leh? "it-bong7 bu5-che3"--leh? Si7, ma chiaN chiap thiaN. M-koh Lan chhui-khau kam u "bu-che" chit-khoan oe-gi? Lan kong "chi" e si5 si7 ki2 sim-mih? Lan sou-ji kam an-ne iong..e? Lan e "liam7" kah "chha" si an-choaN iong..e? Lan kong "bong7" e si5 siuN-tioh sim-mih? Na beh chiap-siu, lan m-bat "ji7" e si-toa e thai-tou siong cheng-khak: kui-e expression ka7 oh8--lai, bo beh koh ka hun-sek..a. (Koh khi3 siuN7--tioh..a: Goa na-chhiuN bat ti bang-lou teng-koan ka siaN-lang kong-tioh chit8-phiN mih-kiaN---- Ko-hiong Koan Bun-hoa Tiong-sim chhut-pan e "Hong-soaN Ban-lam-gu Kou-su (1)", pp.214-217 hit-phiN "Jin5 chi chhou, seng3 pun2 sian7", goa si7 kam-kak put-chi-a u i-su: chit-e kou-su hoan2-eng3 chhut sim-mih gi-gian thai-tou--leh? Hak-khiam HiaN na u heng-chhu, bo-tiaN e-tang ka7 gian-kiu--chit-e.) Si m-si ti Russia kah England khah-cha u chit8-toaN si-kan, in-e "siong-liu" sia-hoe chiaN ai kong French? Kong ka-ti e pe-bu-oe ma tiaN-tiaN chhap chiaN che French? Si m-si chit-ma e Russian kah English lai-te chiaN che7 ui3 French chioh--lai e su5? Ma u chiaN che French words/expressions ti hit-e si-tai koe-liau, Russian kah English to bo5 leh kong..a? Chit-ma, English e se-lat toa kah beh kiaN si2 lang. Si m-si Hoat-kok-lang teh pian su-tian e si5, kian-pai to ai ti7 hia chha2: sim-mih English expressions beh ka7 siu--jip-khi, sim-mih bo ai? (Goa bat ka TeN ks kian-gi: lan ma eng-kai lai oan--chit-e.) ThiaN koa-a-hi ah si Pou-te-hi e si5, hiah-e m-chai sim-mih oe, goa long tong3-cho bo thiaN--tioh. Goa kan-na ai khioh hiah-e "khau2-peh8" lai thiaN. Na u-eng, goa tiaN-tiaN e khi peng2 Douglas kah Barclay pian e dictionary kah supplement. Tui in-e kong-hian, goa sit-chai chiok kam-sim..e. Ti7 in-e chheh--nih, kang-khoan, goa ma chu-i-tioh be-chio hit-chun siu7 Pak-hong gi-gian eng-hiong, theh lai iong e su5, ah si ti7 hit-chun e sia-hoe kiat-kou e7-tit chun-chai e oe-gi, chit-ma lan long bo leh iong..a. Li kong chhut-lai, nabo ka in-e Han-ji sia2--chhut-lai, ma han-tit u-lang thiaN u. Kong2--koe..a, goa tui ka-ti e TG theng-tou kam-kak chiok kian-siau..e, put-si to theh Hoa-gi/Tiong-bun e su5 lim5-si5 chioh iong--chit8-e7, to7 ka "chun2"--koe. "Lim5-si5 chioh lai iong e oe-gi" chiap8 kong2, to7 e7 "tiau5"--leh. U tang-si-a, goa kam-goan na2 e2-kau2--leh, hmh-hmh bo beh kong-oe. (Ki-sit, siau-lian si-tai, na-chhiuN u-lang jin-ui goa Tiong-bun sia liau iau be bai2. Thak Tai-hak it-ni5 ah si ji-ni e si5, goa u chit-toaN si-kan ho-tiaN-ni khoaN bo ka-ti leh sia sim-mih, ma be-hiau sia..a. Hit-toaN jit-chi, goa khak-sit na2 e-kau--leh.) (Russia e sim-li-hak-ka kah sin5-keng-kho i-seng, Aleksandr Romanovich Luria e hit-pun "The Man with a Shattered World" tiong-ek-pun [ç ´ç¢ç人], goa bat sio2 ka7 thak8--koe, u tang-si-a kam-kak ti chheh--nih khoaN-tioh ka-ti.) Goa chai-iaN goa i-keng sit-khi goa-e pe-bu-oe..a. Khi2-be2 tui goa lai kong, goa-e TG tioh8 ai ui3 siong ki-chhou e sou-chai tiong5-kian3 chiah e-sai--tit. In-ui ai tui thau5 tiong5-kian3, goa to e7 khi3 tiuN-ti che7-che7 bun-te, to e7 put-si mng ka-ti: che kam TG? to7 e7 chu-i-tioh sim-mih oe-gi si7 lim5-si5 ka lang chioh lai iong..e. Koh kong chit8-kai: goa chai-iaN gi-gian si7 oah..e, put-si long leh pian-tong; m-koh, goa ma chai-iaN, gi-gian ma e7 si2--khi. 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