Chu-im chiu-si chu-im, chu-im im-chiat-hoa (syllabic) be-tang kong chiu-si bo-im, i si chit e syllabic consonant (im-chiat-hoa e chu-im). Hunlui (asi tenggi) si anne bo mtioh. Mkohsitche siong igi bo toa; pitkeng "m, ng, …" long etang tantok hoatim. > Tai-gi lai-te kan-na u m, ng e im-chiat-hoa bo ki-thaN e im e im-chiat-hoa. Che tiohai khoaN Taigi e tenggi--a. ChhinchhiuN ui Jitpunoe khipsiu e Holooe, kau taN POJ iau bo 1 tho oancheng e chhuli hongsek. Imchathoa e bunte ma luisu. Tekpiat si Holooe ai bintui kiongse e Hoagi kap Enggi. (Taigibang to u be chio lang chutiuNka ui Hoagi, Enggi lai e su titchiap chiau goanim thak!) > Ki-tha e im na-si u lang kong-oe ka i im-chiat-hoa ma be-tang kong si Tai-gi u chit e im-chiat-hoa e im (in-ui in m-si phoneimci, m-si im-sou, si bo i-gi e (not meaningful). Kipunsiong si anne bo mtioh. Mkoh chiaN khosioh, taichi han tit chiahni oanboan. Im chau--khi liauau, igi thongsiong ma e toe leh chau. Loulat. Kiatgak

----- Original Message ----- From: Li khinhoann ; Kiatgak ; ; [](https://web.archive.org/web/20050330194134/mailto: "") Sent: Saturday, August 09, 2003 12:00 AM Subject: [TGB] Re: gigian pikau, goalaigi (Re: imchathoa (Re: "ma" e hoatim (Re: jipsiaN kap m/n/ng (Re: [TGB] nga vs. gaN; na vs. laN; ma vs. baN))))

Chu-im chiu-si chu-im, chu-im im-chiat-hoa (syllabic) be-tang kong chiu-si bo-im, i si chit e syllabic consonant (im-chiat-hoa e chu-im). Tai-gi lai-te kan-na u m, ng e im-chiat-hoa bo ki-thaN e im e im-chiat-hoa. Ki-tha e im na-si u lang kong-oe ka i im-chiat-hoa ma be-tang kong si Tai-gi u chit e im-chiat-hoa e im (in-ui in m-si phoneimci, m-si im-sou, si bo i-gi e (not meaningful).

From: "Hok-chu" >Reply-To: "Hok-chu" >To: "" , "keith cheng" , ?ååç?, "Hak-khiam" , "Taigu \(Taiwanese Net\)" >Subject: Re: gigian pikau, goalaigi (Re: imchathoa (Re: "ma" e hoatim (Re: jipsiaN kap m/n/ng (Re: [TGB] nga vs. gaN; na vs. laN; ma vs. baN)))) >Date: Fri, 8 Aug 2003 20:26:41 +0800 > >U to-li! >M-ku goa iau-si m-bat thiann lang ka 'n' kong-cho si bo-im. >(Iau5 Cheng3-to7 bok-su e chheh khak-sit kong 'n' si bo-im.) >Lan teh ka TGB e si, tau-te beh an-choann kong? >'m' kap 'ng' kong im-chat-hoa, 'n' ma beh an-ne kong? > Babuza > ----- Original Message ----- > From: > To: Hokkchu ; keith cheng ; ?ååç?; Hak-khiam ; Taigu (Taiwanese Net) > Sent: Friday, August 08, 2003 12:06 PM > Subject: gigian pikau, goalaigi (Re: imchathoa (Re: "ma" e hoatim (Re: jipsiaN kap m/n/ng (Re: [TGB] nga vs. gaN; na vs. laN; ma vs. baN)))) > > > > Lan kiam-si teh tho-lun Tai-gi? > > A-si teh tho-lun Hoa-gi/Hoat-gi sim-chi IPA? > > Si leh tholun Taigi bo mtioh. Mkoh > > 1. Taigi masi "lang e gigian", betang uihoan itpoaN gigianhak e kuichek. Ui patchiong gigian kap IPA etang hou lan kohkhah liaukai lan kati e gigian. > > 2. Taigi u chiaN che goalaigi, beh anchoaN kong, anchoaN sia, long si Taigi ai bintui e bunte. Tekpiat si Hoagi, POJ beh anchoaN susia ui Hoagi lai e goalaigi? (Sia Hanji/HL etang thauchiahpou: sia Hanji kio lang kati thak. Anni, bo chinchiaN kaikoat bunte.) > > Loulat. > > Kiatgak > > ----- Original Message ----- > From: Hokkchu > To: keith cheng ; ; ?ååç?; Hak-khiam ; Taigu (Taiwanese Net) > Sent: Thursday, August 07, 2003 11:11 PM > Subject: Re: imchathoa (Re: "ma" e hoatim (Re: jipsiaN kap m/n/ng (Re: [TGB] nga vs. gaN; na vs. laN; ma vs. baN))) > > > Lan kiam-si teh tho-lun Tai-gi? > A-si teh tho-lun Hoa-gi/Hoat-gi sim-chi IPA? > > Goa kan-tann liau-kai TGB nai. > Chhun..e, goa m-kann kong. > Babuza > ----- Original Message ----- > From: keith cheng > To: ; Hok-chu ; ?ååç?; Hak-khiam ; Taigu (Taiwanese Net) > Sent: Thursday, August 07, 2003 5:56 PM > Subject: Re: imchathoa (Re: "ma" e hoatim (Re: jipsiaN kap m/n/ng (Re: [TGB] nga vs. gaN; na vs. laN; ma vs. baN))) > > > Kok-ui; > > Kiatgak hiaN kong liau bo m-tioh. > "n" tek-khak e-sai imchat-hoa. M-koh POJ bo an-ne sia. > Hoa-gi tioh chin-che. > Chhin-chhiuN ebin > "é Ô͘?quot; e Hoa-gi hoatim na beh eng POJ sia, e-sai sia-cho "sn" > "??quot; e HG hoatim siacho "sng" > Hoagi bo "sm" > > Sichong > > ----- Original Message ----- > From: > To: Hok-chu ; ?ååç?; Hak-khiam ; keith cheng ; Taigu (Taiwanese Net) > Sent: Thursday, August 07, 2003 11:41 AM > Subject: imchathoa (Re: "ma" e hoatim (Re: jipsiaN kap m/n/ng (Re: [TGB] nga vs. gaN; na vs. laN; ma vs. baN))) > > > > hak-sut-siong ai ka chheng-hou cho im1chat5hoa3(syllabized). > > Na-si 'n', choat-tui m-si! > > Mchai "n" choattui msi simmih? > > "n" kisit ma etang imchathoa. > > > In-ui 'n' be-tang tan-tok cho su5. > > "su5"? > > "n" etang imchathoa, tongjian etang tantok cho su. Chengchha Holo Taigi bo anni eng nia. (Kisit khaugi u, bo lang sia--chhutlai nia.) > > > Chit-e koan-liam, ti lan TGB kai na-chhiunn iau chin-che lang bo chheng-chho. > > Iua-koh ka n kio-cho un-bo(bo-im). > > Anni kong tianto e hoe--khi. > > (1) "m, ng" punchiaN tosi "unbo" bo mtioh. > > (2) "m, ng" si "imchathoa e chuim, tongcho boim eng"; kong in si "boim" ma betang kong mtioh. > > (3) "m, ng si imchathoa e chuim" si siong oancheng e konghoat. (khah tng--chitsuta) > > Loulat. > > Kiatgak > > ----- Original Message ----- > From: Hok-chu > To: ?ååç?; ; Hak-khiam ; keith cheng ; Taigu (Taiwanese Net) > Sent: Thursday, August 07, 2003 10:16 AM > Subject: Re: "ma" e hoatim (Re: jipsiaN kap m/n/ng (Re: [TGB] nga vs. gaN; na vs. laN; ma vs. baN)) > > > 3.m n ng khah hokchap ,e-sai-chit cho siaNbo ,phiNim unboe unbo . > ================================================== > 'M' kap 'ng' e-tang tan-tok cho su, chhiunn m2, m5, m7, ng1, ng1, ng3, ng5, ng7. > an-ne thang sng si 'bo-im'. > M-ku Khin-hoann hiann ka goa kong, > hak-sut-siong ai ka chheng-hou cho im1chat5hoa3(syllabized). > Na-si 'n', choat-tui m-si! > In-ui 'n' be-tang tan-tok cho su5. > Chit-e koan-liam, ti lan TGB kai na-chhiunn iau chin-che lang bo chheng-chho. > Iua-koh ka n kio-cho un-bo(bo-im). > Bong chham-kho. > Babuza > > ----- Original Message ----- > From: ?ååç?> To: ; Hak-khiam ; keith cheng ; Taigu (Taiwanese Net) > Sent: Wednesday, August 06, 2003 11:16 PM > Subject: Re: "ma" e hoatim (Re: jipsiaN kap m/n/ng (Re: [TGB] nga vs. gaN; na vs. laN; ma vs. baN)) > > > Kiatgak hiaN kap tak-e pengan: > kengkoe anni e tholun ,hou goa kohjin u chin 1 pou e liaukai kap simtek. > chitmai goa lai poko goa e sim-tek: > 1.baN/laN/gaN si 15 im e siat-ke ,chin-liong mai kap POJ lam-leh kong .na beh hou-siong cho pi-kau chiah u suiau tholun. > 2.POJ e m n ng kap b l g si u phiNim kap bo phiNim echhapiat . > 3.m n ng khah hokchap ,e-sai-chit cho siaNbo ,phiNim unboe unbo . > 4.n kohkhah tekpiat ,khngti thaucheng si siaNbo ,khngti aupiah si unbo ,siosia si phiNhoa boim . > 5.siaNbo chi-u chhui-heng ,bo siaNim ,si hoat-im cheng e chhui-heng ;un-bo u siaN koh u chhui-heng ;sio n e phiNim ,chi-si phiNim e huho ,theh-chheN Li chit-im si phiN-im ,sou-i hoat-siaN 1 khai-si tio-si phiNim ,m-si un-boe . > 6.sou-i:ma/m-a;am/a-m ;na/[n-a];an/[a-n]aN;nga/ng-a;ang/a-ng e hoat-im ,long bo-kang-khoan . > i-siong e kong-hoat ,m-chai tho-tong--bo ,chhiaN chi-kau . > Lah-jih > ----- Original Message ----- > From: > To: ?ååç?; Hak-khiam ; keith cheng ; Taigu(Taiwanese Net) > Sent: Wednesday, August 06, 2003 6:55 AM > Subject: "ma" e hoatim (Re: jipsiaN kap m/n/ng (Re: [TGB]nga vs. gaN; na vs. laN; ma vs. baN)) > > > Siau ls kap taike pengan, > > Kipunsiong, che si 1 e chiaN kipun e hoatim bunte. Na ehiau hou "b, m", koh ehiau hou "a, aN", to etang hou 4 chiong bokang e imchat "ba, baN, ma, maN". > > Eng "ma" cho le: to chiau itpoaN e houim kuichek, seng hou "m" [m?] koh hou "a" [a], seng liam khah ban--leh, chiah koh liam khah kin--leh, to etang hou "ma" e im--a. Ai chu-i aupiah e "a" mthang hou thaucheng e "m" enghiong--tiooh. > > HukiaN si Engkok 2 e giimhak ks (John Wells kap Jill House) leh ka lang hoatim. ChhiaN thiaN khoaNmai, khoaN kap Taigi e "ma" u simmih chengchha. > > Loulat. > > Kiatgak > > > ----- Original Message ----- > From: "?ååç?quot; > To: "" ; "Hak-khiam" ; "keith cheng" ; "Taigu (Taiwanese Net)" > Sent: Thursday, July 31, 2003 3:38 PM > Subject: Re: jipsiaN kap m/n/ng (Re: [TGB] nga vs. gaN; na vs. laN; ma vs. baN) > > > > > baN ma ,laN na ,nga gaN e hoat-im ,bo-kang e sou-chai si phiN-siaN > > > khng-ti thau-cheng iah-si au-piah e bun-te ,hoat-siaN liau-au e kiat-ko si > > > kang-khoan--e > > > > Mtioh. "ba, baN, ma, maN" hoatsiaN liauau e kiatko 4e long bo kang. Kiohsi > > "baN, ma" hoatim siosiang si inui Taioanlang koansi ka in thakcho kangkhoan > > e hoatim "maN". > > chit-tiam goa kam-kak be-chhut--lai . > > Lah-jih > > > > * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * > > * Li chu-chheh e e-mail khau-cho si: =?big5?B?v72lrap2?= . > > * Beh kia phoe ho' tak-ke tioh iong chit-e khau-cho chiah kia-e-kau. > > * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * > >

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