еҡңпҝҪ U to-li! M-ku goa iau-si m-bat thiann lang ka 'n' kong-cho si bo-im. (Iau5 Cheng3-to7 bok-su e chheh khak-sitkong 'n' si bo-im.) Lan teh ka TGB e si, tau-te beh an-choann kong? 'm' kap 'ng' kong im-chat-hoa, 'n' ma beh an-ne kong? Babuza

----- Original Message ----- From: ; keith cheng ; Hak-khiam Sent: Friday, August 08, 2003 12:06 PM Subject: gigian pikau, goalaigi (Re: imchathoa (Re: "ma" e hoatim (Re: jipsiaN kap m/n/ng (Re: [TGB] nga vs. gaN; na vs. laN; ma vs. baN))))

Lan kiam-si teh tho-lun Tai-gi? > A-si teh tho-lun Hoa-gi/Hoat-gi sim-chi IPA? Si leh tholun Taigi bo mtioh. Mkoh 1. Taigi masi "lang e gigian", betang uihoan itpoaN gigianhak e kuichek. Ui patchiong gigian kap IPA etang hou lan kohkhah liaukai lan kati e gigian. 2. Taigi u chiaN che goalaigi, beh anchoaN kong, anchoaN sia, long si Taigi ai bintui e bunte. Tekpiat si Hoagi, POJ beh anchoaN susia ui Hoagilai e goalaigi? (Sia Hanji/HL etang thauchiahpou: sia Hanji kio lang kati thak. Anni, bo chinchiaN kaikoat bunte.) Loulat. Kiatgak ----- Original Message ----- From: Hokkchu ; ; Hak-khiam Sent: Thursday, August 07, 2003 11:11 PM Subject: Re: imchathoa (Re: "ma" e hoatim (Re: jipsiaN kap m/n/ng (Re: [TGB] nga vs. gaN; na vs. laN; ma vs. baN)))
Lan kiam-si teh tho-lun Tai-gi? A-si teh tho-lun Hoa-gi/Hoat-gi sim-chi IPA? Goa kan-tann liau-kai TGB nai. Chhun..e, goa m-kann kong. Babuza

----- Original Message ----- From: keith cheng ; Hok-chu ; Hak-khiam Sent: Thursday, August 07, 2003 5:56 PM Subject: Re: imchathoa (Re: "ma" e hoatim (Re: jipsiaN kap m/n/ng (Re: [TGB] nga vs. gaN; na vs. laN; mavs. baN)))
Kok-ui; Kiatgak hiaN kong liau bo m-tioh. "n" tek-khak e-sai imchat-hoa. M-koh POJ bo an-ne sia. Hoa-gi tioh chin-che. Chhin-chhiuN ebin "й ЁпҝҪ" e Hoa-gi hoatim na beh eng POJ sia, e-sai sia-cho "sn" "пҝҪВ”Вҹ" e HG hoatim siacho "sng" Hoagi bo "sm" Sichong

----- Original Message ----- From: ; пҝҪВḿеүm̀еғҸзҳқпҝҪ ; keith cheng Sent: Thursday, August 07, 2003 11:41 AM Subject: imchathoa (Re: "ma"e hoatim (Re: jipsiaN kap m/n/ng (Re: [TGB] nga vs. gaN; na vs. laN; ma vs. baN)))
hak-sut-siong ai ka chheng-hou cho im1chat5hoa3(syllabized). > Na-si 'n', choat-tui m-si! Mchai "n" choattui msi simmih? "n" kisit ma etang imchathoa. > In-ui 'n' be-tang tan-tok cho su5. "su5"? "n" etang imchathoa, tongjian etang tantok cho su. Chengchha Holo Taigi bo anni eng nia. (Kisit khaugi u, bo lang sia--chhutlai nia.) > Chit-e koan-liam, ti lan TGB kai na-chhiunn iau chin-che lang bo chheng-chho. > Iua-koh ka n kio-cho un-bo(bo-im). Anni kong tianto e hoe--khi. (1) "m, ng" punchiaN tosi "unbo" bo mtioh. (2) "m, ng" si "imchathoa e chuim, tongcho boimeng"; kong in si "boim" ma betang kong mtioh. (3) "m, ng si imchathoa e chuim" si siong oancheng e konghoat. (khah tng--chitsuta) Loulat. Kiatgak

----- Original Message ----- From: Hok-chu ; ; keith cheng Sent: Thursday, August 07, 2003 10:16 AM Subject: Re: "ma" e hoatim (Re: jipsiaN kap m/n/ng (Re: [TGB] nga vs. gaN; na vs. laN; ma vs. baN))
3.m n ng khah hokchap ,e-sai-chit cho siaNbo ,phiNim unboe unbo . ================================================== 'M' kap 'ng' e-tang tan-tok cho su, chhiunn m2, m5, m7, ng1, ng1, ng3, ng5, ng7. an-ne thang sng si 'bo-im'. M-ku Khin-hoann hiannka goa kong, hak-sut-siong ai ka chheng-hou cho im1chat5hoa3(syllabized). Na-si 'n', choat-tui m-si! In-ui 'n' be-tang tan-tok cho su5. Chit-e koan-liam, ti lan TGB kai na-chhiunn iau chin-che lang bo chheng-chho. Iua-koh ka n kio-cho un-bo(bo-im). Bong chham-kho. Babuza

----- Original Message ----- From: пҝҪВḿеүm̀еғҸзҳқпҝҪ ; Hak-khiam ; [Taigu (Taiwanese Net)](https://web.archive.org/web/20060117081058/mailto: "") Sent: Wednesday, August 06, 2003 11:16 PM Subject: Re: "ma" e hoatim (Re: jipsiaN kap m/n/ng (Re: [TGB] nga vs. gaN; na vs. laN; ma vs. baN))
Kiatgak hiaN kap tak-e pengan: kengkoe anni e tholun ,hou goa kohjin u chin 1 pou e liaukai kap simtek. chitmai goa lai poko goa e sim-tek: 1.baN/laN/gaN si 15 im e siat-ke ,chin-liong mai kap POJ lam-leh kong .na beh hou-siong cho pi-kau chiah u suiau tholun. 2.POJ e m n ng kap b l g si u phiNim kap bo phiNim echhapiat . 3.m n ng khah hokchap ,e-sai-chit cho siaNbo ,phiNim unboe unbo . 4.n kohkhah tekpiat ,khngti thaucheng si siaNbo ,khngti aupiah si unbo ,siosia si phiNhoa boim . 5.siaNbo chi-u chhui-heng ,bo siaNim ,si hoat-im cheng e chhui-heng ;un-bo u siaN koh u chhui-heng ;sio n e phiNim ,chi-si phiNim e huho ,theh-chheN Li chit-im si phiN-im ,sou-i hoat-siaN 1 khai-si tio-si phiNim ,m-si un-boe . 6.sou-i:ma/m-a;am/a-m ;na/[n-a];an/[a-n]aN;nga/ng-a;ang/a-ng e hoat-im ,long bo-kang-khoan . i-siong e kong-hoat ,m-chai tho-tong--bo ,chhiaN chi-kau . Lah-jih

----- Original Message ----- From: ; Hak-khiam ; [Taigu (Taiwanese Net)](https://web.archive.org/web/20060117081058/mailto: "") Sent: Wednesday, August 06, 2003 6:55 AM Subject: "ma" e hoatim (Re: jipsiaN kap m/n/ng (Re: [TGB] nga vs. gaN; na vs. laN; ma vs. baN))
Siau ls kap taike pengan, Kipunsiong, che si 1 e chiaNkipun e hoatim bunte. Na ehiau hou "b, m", koh ehiau hou "a, aN", to etang hou 4 chiong bokang e imchat "ba, baN, ma, maN". Eng "ma" cho le: to chiau itpoaN e houim kuichek, seng hou "m" [mпҝҪВҷ] koh hou "a" [a], seng liam khah ban--leh, chiah koh liam khah kin--leh, to etang hou "ma" e im--a. Ai chu-i aupiah e "a" mthang hou thaucheng e "m" enghiong--tioh. HukiaN si Engkok 2 e giimhakks (John Wells kap Jill House) leh ka lang hoatim. ChhiaN thiaN khoaNmai, khoaN kap Taigi e "ma" u simmih chengchha.
Loulat. Kiatgak ----- Original Message ----- From: "пҝҪВḿеүm̀еғҸзҳқпҝҪ" <> To: "" <>; "Hak-khiam" <>; "keith cheng" <>; "Taigu (Taiwanese Net)" <> Sent: Thursday, July 31, 2003 3:38 PM Subject: Re: jipsiaN kap m/n/ng (Re: [TGB] nga vs. gaN; na vs. laN; ma vs. baN)
baN ma ,laN na ,nga gaN e hoat-im ,bo-kang e sou-chai si phiN-siaN
khng-ti thau-cheng iah-si au-piah e bun-te ,hoat-siaN liau-au e kiat-ko si
kang-khoan--e

Mtioh. "ba, baN, ma, maN" hoatsiaN liauau e kiatko 4 e long bo kang. Kiohsi
"baN, ma" hoatim siosiang si inui Taioanlang koansi ka in thakcho kangkhoan
e hoatim "maN".
chit-tiam goa kam-kak be-chhut--lai .
Lah-jih

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