Taike peng-an.

Chiam-tui TLPA ou-peh-kong in si KIP sou-kong-po e Chu-im-hu-ho chit-tiam,
TLH/POJ e thoan-the e-tang kho-lu kiaN
hoat-lut/ko jip-khi hoat-iN e lou-soaN,
kia kong-peN kau-ek-hoat e lou-soaN,
ki-jian kap su-sit bo ha,
chau law, hoat-lut e lou-soaN, kong e thong.
lan u hoat-lut e choan-ka thang chheng-kau?

Leng-goa lai khan po-choa, hiong sia-hoe kong chia e lang kong peh-chhat, khoaN in kaN lai ko lan ia-si m-kaN, pun soan-thoan toaN kau Sin-tek su-hoan hak-iN, che-cho su-toan, gia ki-chia lai khan sin-bun.

i- siong si goa e kian-gi, na beh in soan-thoan-toaN, khan-po-choa, goa kau NT$5,000 khou bong chan-chou. Goa ti Oat-lam, Ho-chi-minh city, ka Lin taike iau-pa-chha.

Best regards,
Max Lu

From: "ungian,pchome" Reply-To: "ungian,pchome" To: Hak-khiam CC: , "" , Tojhokchu , keith cheng Subject: Re: TLPA kam u su-jip nng-the? (Re: [TGB] Sin chheh chhut pan: POJ vs. TLPA)

Date: Mon, 01 Jul 2002 12:22:57 +0800
  


Hakkhiam hiaN :
  


In nachhiuN u 1 tho sujiphoat, goa icheng pat chiuN-bang liah ke,
kaNna si koa ti Tiongiong tousukoan Taioan hukoan hia.
  


Kantan kong , he si koa ti Windows hethong laitoe e sukhou sujiphoat,
i kanna tanji e, bo 2 ji iahsi 2 ji isiong e su.
  


Ungian 2002.7.1
  


Ti Mon, 1 Jul 2002 10:38:59 +0800 e si-chun
"Hak-khiam"  sia i-ha e loe-iong :

`> Tak-ke ho:

TLPA it-tit kong POJ bo hah chu-sin si-tai.
POJ e su-jip-hoat u kui-a-tho, m-koh TLPA e su-jip-hoat kai-seng iau bo
khoaN tioh.

Hak-khiam

----- Original Message -----
From: ""
To: "Tojhokchu" ; "ungian,pchome"
; "keith cheng"
Cc: "Hak-khiam" ;
Sent: Sunday, June 30, 2002 2:19 PM
Subject: kiongsek (Re: [TGB] Sin chheh chhut pan: POJ vs. TLPA)

----- Original Message -----
From: "Tojhokchu"
To: "ungian,pchome" ; "keith cheng"

Cc: "Hak-khiam" ; ;
""
Sent: Friday, June 28, 2002 9:14 PM
Subject: Re: [TGB] Sin chheh chhut pan: POJ vs. TLPA

Tai-ke CTT!
1.Tioh!
2.TTS e cho-lang goa sit-chai bo liau-kai,
sui-bong i bat ti Tai-oan Bun-hoa Hak-inn
ka goa ka3-koe Han-gi Im-un-hak(1994)!
Na-si cheng-keng chiah-nih ok-chit
(kong chit-khoan, cho leng-goa chit-khoan),

Tang Tiongsi kausiu cholang anchoann goa ma bo liaukai. Mkoh goa ` iausi > > kiangi ai chiamtui taichi lai tholun, taute i u simmih chohoat bo sektong--e? Etang peh choa ou ji ka sia--lohlai, theh chhutlai kongkhai `> > tholun.

Chhiunn chit pai "hiongthou gigian kauhak chioan jinoan" e kanggi, te ` 3 > iah iukoh leh kong "Kauiokpou kongko e 'Taioan Banlamgi Imphiau Hethong' ...", `> > bengbeng cha to thiatsiau e mihkiann, 2002 ni koh theh lai kong, chit
chiong
uihoan susit e konghoat chiann bo sektong, e haisi Taigi.

Siong ho mthang chiamtui lang lai tholun, anni khiongkiann bunte e ju ` kong `> > ju hoe, tui Taigi kohoah bo simmih pangchan.

lan u pit-iau chhoe-chhut chit-e kiong-sek lai cho guide.

Kianlip kiongsek si punchiann tiohai cho e taichi, kap Tang Tiongsi ` kausiu `> e
chohoat engkai bo titai.

Goa e kiangi si:

(a) Khaklip "Taigi Kohoah" e goanchek.

(b) Chiamtui TLPA e bunte lai kong,

  1. khaklip POJ e bunji teui (liansu, iusoeh, sia bunchiunn, …)
  2. khakjim TLPA e iongtou si imphiau
  3. Taigi Kohoah si ai phouphian Taigi bunji e suiong
  4. POJ kap TLPA kijian iongtou bo siokang, to bo engkai theh lai ` pikau, `> > logic be thong, ma bo pitiau

(c) Chiamtui Taigi imphiau e bunte lai kong,

  1. Taioanlang bogi igoa, u kholeng oh choan sekai kok chiong gigian
    (pauham
    Pakkianngi, Enggi, ….)
  2. lan suiau 1 tho chinchiann "thongiong" e imphiau, etang piautat ` kok > > chiong gigian e hoatim, anni haksip e hutam chiah e siong ke, hauko chiah `> e
    siong koan
  3. bokchian kantann IPA huhap chit e iaukiu
  4. TLPA kantann sekhap Taioan bogi, kongleng bo kau
  5. Thongiong uihoan giimhak e kipun siatke, huho chholoan, bo kaukeh
    chiann
    cho 1 e imphiau hethong e kholu "hongan"

Isiong (a), (b), (c) simsi u kholeng chiann cho "kiongsek"? Chhiann
chhamkho.

Kiatgak

3.Hak-khiam kin-a-jit ti KTH khui-hoe,
u sim-mih kiat-lun/hoat-tian bo?
Babuza

----- Original Message -----
From: ungian,pchome
To: keith cheng
Cc: Hak-khiam ; ;

Sent: Friday, June 28, 2002 10:56 AM
Subject: Re: [TGB] Sin chheh chhut pan: POJ vs. TLPA

Takke ho :

Goa si kamkah kuiNmng khui GTH si kiaN boe thong e. Chichio ` chhiuN > > > > TangTiongsi chitkhoanlang, ti li bin cheng si 1 tho, ti li aupiah koh > si lenggoa 1 tho, nasi kah chitkhoan lang kongoe kam u louiong ? JichhiaN lan simlai ma chai, na kasu hiah e lang hiahni ho kongoe, `> > > > Taigubun boe bu kau chite khamcham.

Tongjian lan tui TLPA iahsi Thongiong, lan kaki iahbo 1 e ` bengkhak `> > > > e kiongsek, soui iha goa kanna kong goa kojin e siuNhoat.

(1) Huho beh annoa soantek , si esai tholun e, bo 100% oanbi e
huho, soui beh kong chittho huho u goa bai chin kantan, mkoh
che ma boetang chengbeng lenggoa 1 tho to bo buntoe.

(2) Kasu huho kengcheng e ketheng, si iong bo chengtong e
chhiu-oan, simchi si beh ka tuihong ah loh toe (chhiuN chitma
Tangtiongsi tui POJ e kongkek ), lan sitchai bo engkai tiN
tiamtiam. Chhui kong e kholeng msi ho panhoat, lang iong
sia e , pehchoa sia ouji, lan ma ai pehchoa sia ouji chiah
u louiong.

Goa kojin e kamkah si, chitma Thongiong (goa kojin jimui bo
kahsek itsek e buntoe, thongiong kana 1 chiong) khoaNtioh
TLPA chhiuN chiahchoe chugoan, soui in ka TLPA tongchoe
tekjin. TLPA si ka POJ tongchoe tekjin (tongjian che msi kong
souu chhaiiong TLPA e lang long anne, chisi bo piausi ikian
e lang bo siaNim, u hoatsiaN e chuiau longsi tih kongkek
POJ) si inui in kamkah POJ e chunchai e ittit uihiap TLPA
"chengthong" e te-ui.

Ungian 2002.6.28

Ti Fri, 28 Jun 2002 01:31:41 +0800 e si-chun
keith cheng sia i-ha e loe-iong :

Kok-ui hiaN-che:

KhoaN Kiatgak hiaN tui Tang TS e bun-toaN7 an-ne jin-chin ` phe-pheng, > > goa ia u koa kam-siong. Khi2-thau5 khoaN-tioh chit-phiN chin hoe2 toa7. Beh sia phe-pheng, `> koh
siuN-kong long-hui si-kan, beh
kong--e, cha2 tioh kong-liau--ah.

Koh leng-goa, TLPA si liong-seng e keng-cheng-chia (in teh ` thui-sak > > > Tai-gi chin-chiaN si chhut-lat, sui- bong kong in ka7 ko3-jin5 e li-ek he ti Tai-gi e li-ek lai-bin), > a-si tek-jin (chiau in an-ne bu, e ka Tai-gi bu2-- si2) chit-e bun-te, na-chhiuN iau-ku ti lan bang--nih bo it-ti e `> > > siuN-hoat.

Chio-eng Tai-tok Thoan-the choe-kin kui-tang e hoan2-seng kap
kiam-tho,
u 1-e tiong-iau e kiat-lun.
Tai-tok e lang phiaN-se ti kang7-khou-a lai e lang, keng2-chhut ` in e > > > mou5-peN, tiam-chhut in bo- sun5 e sou-chai, phah hou in "giat-auh8 chhia-pun3-tau2". Kiat-ko `> > > tek-jin ju lai ju che, tong-chi lu lai lu chio.
Un-tong na cho, lang na chio.

Tai-gi-bun un-tong kam ia si an-ne?
TLPA ok-chit e sou-chai u, bo hak-sut liong-sim (ethics) e ` sou-chai `> u,
Chi-na mentality u,…….. Bai sou-chai
10 ki chng2-thau5 sng be liau.
M-koh in kam u teh phah-piaN beh hou Tai-gi koh oah-khi-lai?
Chit-e bun-te siong-tong tiong-iau.
Na u, goa jin-ui bo su-iau ka in tong-cho tek-jin.
Na bo, thai5 hou si!

Put-koan an-choaN, TLPA an-choaN au3, chong-si ai hou hiah-e ` lang > > chai. Goa kian-gi lan kam u kho- leng thau-koe koan-to lai kap in khui gian-tho-hoe, cho pian-lun `> > (phi-ju
kio Tai-lian e lip-ui khui koaiN-mng
e gian-tho-hoe, bo tui-goa kong-khai hit-khoan), beh thai tiam
pang-keng
lai-bin thai. Mai thai chhut khi kau
goa-khau, khiong-kian e siah-tiau Tai-gi-bun e khi-se.

I-siong
Si-chong

2002/6/27 PM 09:30:08, ""
wrote:

From: ""

To: "Hak-khiam" , ` ` ` `> > > > > > Subject:Re: [TGB] Sin chheh chhut pan: POJ vs. TLPA
Date: Thu, 27 Jun 2002 21:30:08 +0800

Taike ho,

Chit laite ue kong gah chiann u toli (huhap susit jichhiann ` logic > e thong), ue to u bunte (bo huhap susit asi logic be thong). Chiann taike `> > > banbana
tholun.

Ti chia goa seng pouchhiong 2 tiam:

  1. Chiahe chuliau khoann--khilai kap 1999/12/12 e Taioan ` Gibun > > > Chengchhek GTH hoatpiau--e oanchoan kangkhoan. Tosi kong, chitkoa u bunte e `> > > pouhun u
    kihoe kaicheng, mkoh peng bo kai.

  2. "(33) Kah, It imphiau pikaupio" si leh pikau "Thongiong
    Imphiau"
    e
    "Kahsek" kap "Itsek". Msi POJ vs. TLPA.

Ti chia goa beh kiongtiau 2 e TLPA e bunte:

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Che si 1 e kipun e bunte: taute simmih si TLPA? I e hoanui ` kau `> > tohui?
TLPA e
chuliau tui che long bo kong chhengchho.

Chiau chit ku oe, engkai si u pauham GCB gigian. Mkoh ` Kauiokpou > > > kongpou--e sitche siong iau msi 1 e hongan. (esai anchoann, esai anchoann, `> …
bo
bengkhak tengchhut 1 e hongan.

http://www.edu.tw/mandr/bbs/1-4-4.htm)

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Che si lenggoa 1 e kipun e bunte: siatke TLPA e bokphiau si
siann?

Chiau chit ku oe, TLPA si beh tongcho imphiau lai suiong. Na
anni,
i
e
siatke sitche siong bo tatkau i e bokphiau.

Mtann i e im bo chun nia (chit tiam chiann taike banbana ` tholun), > u e im TLPA ma betang piausi (chhiann mng: kejipsiann, te "8" siann e > > > piantiau, TLPA beh anchoann piausi), kohkhah tiongiau--e si TLPA kinpun to `> bo
chunchai
e pitiau.

Chhiann siunn khoannmai, 1 phinn lunbun laite sia "oo", ` "ee", > "er", ... khoann e lang beh anchoann chaiiann i e chengkhak hoatim? Simsi `> koh
ai eng
IPA (kokche imphiau) lai piausi. Na anni, eng IPA lai piausi
imphiau
to ho--
a, na tioh eng TLPA?

TLPA kholeng iukoh si lenggoa 1 tho pophomofo, kiann be ` chhut `> > Taioan.

TLPA ti haksutkai eng khah che, mchai Taioan e haksutkai nah ` e > > > chiapsiu eng TLPA lai sia lunbun? Phahsng bo beh hou kokche siong e hakchia `> > khoann
u?
Phahsng TLPA betang piausi e hoanui to bian giankiu--a?

Isiong,

Kiatgak

----- Original Message -----
From: Hak-khiam
To:
Sent: Thursday, June 27, 2002 5:07 PM

Subject: [TGB] Sin chheh chhut pan: POJ vs. TLPA

Tak-ke ho:

Choe-kin khoaN chit pun sin-chheh.
U kong tioh POJ kap TLPA. Chhau pou-hun hou tak-ke khoaN mai ` leh.

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